The Reopening Of Haxby Rail Station (Any Updates?)

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  1. Jonathan1990

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    There has been lots of talk about reopening Haxby railway station on the outskirts of York which would be nearer access to Clifton Moor Industrial Estate. If this ever succeeded they were then on about doing Strensall next. Both these stations closed in 1930. So far no work on this has been started. Just wondering what the latest updates are.
     
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  3. greyman42

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    I don't think it will ever happen. Trains would loose time stopping at these stations that would not have a great passenger demand. Haxby has a good bus service that takes you right into the centre of York whereas the railway station is not in the City centre / shopping / drinking areas.
     
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    It was unsuccessful in the first round of the new Stations Fund. No bid was submitted in the second round.

    Looking at what the LEP have on their plate, Crosshills and Kildwick has recently been long grassed with Leeds trying to push forward three proposals and Elland also a serious contender for delivery following the release of funding from another project.

    Personally, I don’t expect it to proceed in the near future without a strong local campaign group banging the drum for it.
     
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    The scheme as previously developed (plans were submitted to the local authority) included work to raise line speeds to cut journey times by the required number of minutes to offset the time lost by calling at the new station.

    It's worth remembering that coming up at an, as yet, uncertain date, there will be a Northern service between York and Scarborough, which would seem the obvious train to call at Haxby.
     
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    If it were on the same site as the previous Haxby station I'm not sure it's of any use for Clifton Moor. It's too far to walk from either, and the bus links are better from the city centre.

    The only use for a station at Haxby would be people from Haxby going to the centre of York (which as mentioned is already served well by bus) or Haxby residents travelling further afield (which I doubt is a big enough market to justify a new station).
     
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    haven't they been banging on about Strensall and Haxby since the early 80s?
     
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    The proposal included building a new station on the site of the garage that backs onto the line. The original station is a private house and not possible to reinstate.

    As said above - they didn't get the funding, and didn't resubmit. I have many friends in Haxby, and not one is bothered about trains stopping there. As said above, there's a very good bus service and also good cycle routes now.
     
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    There’d also be a lot of free rides to and from York if they didn’t install some barriers. It takes the conductor til nearly Malton to get down the train on the peak evening services from York. Often he doesn’t even bother if they’re blocking the aisles.
     
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    Maybe he meant Monk's Cross?
     
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    That's just as far. The line does not go near either of them in walking terms.
     
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    It was listed in the Study to reopen the Beverley - Mkt Weighton - pocklington '- Stamford bridge - Strensall .
    Now there are serious plans online showing station sites including one which passes along the Eastern edge of the 'Barratt estate' . It included a park and ride to the north side of the A166.
    The line went off line past winchmore house . Across the small lane with an overbridge and across the fields . To join thevnew station . ( I noted the society supporting it wanted a short heritage line based at the old station which given the strengthened viaduct in 1991 . Would allow them a link to reopened line .
    But Haxby is included in this scheme and properly costed .
     
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    Train from York to Haxby would take around 5/6 minutes. At rush hour it can take between 35 and 55 minutes to do the journey by car.
     
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    If they reopened the York to Beverley live that would mean closing The Hudson Way for walkers which covers Market Weighton to Beverley. I think it also covers part of The Wolds Way as well. The former Market Weighton railway station is now an estate as well.
     
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    Maybe, but it is marginally nearer so it might be what the poster meant, even if it is wrong.
     
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    It would be about the same distance as between Scarborough and Seamer would Haxby and York.
     
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    Monks cross is not marginally closer than Clifton Moor and Either way you're looking at walks around the hour mark which is ridiculous given the bus links.
     
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    The main market for Haxby would always be for speedy travel into York. It would also do well to be served by the TransPennine services to Leeds.

    It is easy to get the bus to either Clifton Moor or to Monk's Cross from the city centre.
     
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    Easy but surprisingly expensive. I've worked for years on both Clifton Moor and Monks Cross. The Park and Ride schemes are great for getting into town, but expensive if you want to go in the opposite direction for example.
     
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    I definitely believe there is the demand for a station. Using travel to work census data, i have made a few calculations using the areas of Wigginton, Haxby and Strensall has a total of 1,649 commuters to York City Centre, the York central area, Malton, Scarborough and Leeds City Centre.

    Assumming that 10% of these use a new rail station with 2 journeys per working day and 260 working days leads to around 85,000 passengers per year just from commuters.
     
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    I also think that the station is viable.
     
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    I wonder how many passengers Poppleton Railway Station on the outskirts of York gets which already exists and Ulleskelf.
     
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    About 60 000 a year for a population of 2000; and about 8 000 a year for a population of 1000.
     
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    Hi guys, I know it's bad form to reopen an old thread, but even worse to start the same thread again. All this discussion has missed one big point, that of rail-heading. A station at either Haxby or Strensall would attract a lot of people from the villages north east of York who have no access to the railway at the moment. Malton station is a long way from York (in fact the line used to hold the record for the longest distance between two adjacent stations anywhere in Britain) and Malton is in the wrong direction for many journeys. York station is in the city centre and as we all know, difficult and expensive to use as a railhead. If Haxby or Strensall had a station with a car park I would use it as a railhead. I'm in Terrington. I'm sure the same applies to many other villages. Each village is small but add them all together to get the potential number of users of a reopened station. Of course, villagers who are closest to the reopened station might object to the increased car traffic caused by rail-heading, or to a large car park being constructed at the station. I suggest this is a price worth paying to get a station opened.
     
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    Don’t the rather good park and ride buses in York serve that purpose - at a far better frequency, far better city centre penetration, and lower cost / price, than such a rail based park and ride could do?
     
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    I support Jack Hays argument for reopening Haxby.
    I have never used the bus P&R for York. If I had to I just would not go to York. I would use a rail P&R though if York banned cars.
     
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    The opening times aren't really long enough to fulfil that purpose. Around about 0700-2000 at most of the park and ride sites as I recall.
     
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    I think we will have to disagree on that, given that the York P&R are very popular, both for commuters and visitors. I do agree that they finish a little early, however I contend that with frequencies in the range of a bus every 5-10 minutes they would be far, far more convenient for 99% of users than an hourly train service as a park and ride service.
     
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    but there are those who will use a train but will not use a bus. They are greater than you think despite frequency.
     
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    I know, I was one of them, because of various misconceptions. Then I moved to York, and started catching the P&R bus, and found it extremely convenient and cheap. And since then I use buses regularly. Whilst some people have very good reasons for not using buses, those who refuse to use them because they just don’t like them need to get real.
     
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    That is a very pompous attitude. If you don't like something, you don't like it. It is not a case of getting real. I never once felt sick on a boat or when I performed aerobatics with the Red Arrows in the 1960s but I have felt sick on the 36 bus bumping and banging from Ripon to Harrogate. Once I had to get off well short of my destination. Give me rail over bus every time.
     
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