Whistler40145
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I remember Compartment stock, mainly Mark 1s on the Regional Railways Blackpool Club trains, I also remember the Pilkingtons liveried charter train set. I wasn't much of a fan of them, much preferred Open feeling.
[PEDANT]4 EPB unit 5115 and this was one of 4 unique units with nine compartments instead of the standard ten. These were originally built as composite carriages in the 1940s for 4 Sub units but I don't think they ever ran in service as composites - I'm sure somebody will correct me
4 EPB unit 5115 and this was one of 4 unique units with nine compartments instead of the standard ten. These were originally built as composite carriages in the 1940s for 4 Sub units but I don't think they ever ran in service as composites - I'm sure somebody will correct me
the sort of compartment stock where you have no corridor in the carriage was mentioned as useful for 'ladies of the night' who used them for business on the service between Charing Cross and Canon Street. Then they spoiled it by opening Waterloo(east)! District Railway killed the service off.
VR intercity stock is brilliant - although they benefit from being engineered by Russians, so the loading gauge is 5.3 metres high by 3.75 metres wide, and they use low-level platforms, so headroom simply isn't a concern. The sleeping car compartments feel like ballrooms compared to British stock!VR Finnish Railways might have the solution! Their double decker intercity rolling stock uses the small “mezzanine” level at one end of the carriage, over the bogies and adjacent to the passage to the next car, for a 1+1 and a 2+2 compartment.
Class 302s on the Liverpool Street - Shenfield fasts were known for that. It gave enough time for it! You knew by which compartment had no light bulbs!!You'd have to get a move on!
Works on DB.
Given they’re the parent company of some of our TOC’s is there any reason we shouldn’t have the option when German passengers should?
Works on DB.
Given they’re the parent company of some of our TOC’s is there any reason we shouldn’t have the option when German passengers should?
That picture tells you everything - all but two open coach seats chosen, compartments largely empty.
I think that says something...
I don't get the feeling there's much demand for compartments in the UK anyway, passengers want a seat and open saloons provide more space for that than compartments.
The other aspect of compartments is that ideally everyone wants a unit of seating for their travelling group (which is most often 1 or 2 people). Above that it feels crowded even if it in fact isn't.
First Class single seats offer the best utilisation here - a unit of seating is one seat.
2+2 Standard is slightly better - a unit of seating is either 2 or 4 seats.
Compartments are worst - it's 6 or 8.
In the 90s I did loads of travel on DB with a compartment to myself, it was great but that isn't economic or environmentally sensible. But as soon as someone else moved in it was no fun, and some people might find it threatening.
This,In the 90s I did loads of travel on DB with a compartment to myself, it was great but that isn't economic or environmentally sensible. But as soon as someone else moved in it was no fun, and some people might find it threatening.
SWT 1st class compartments on the 442s? Used until withdrawal of the units in 2007.When did the last compartement stock run in UK? Third rail MK1s ?
Passenger safety...Works on DB.
Given they’re the parent company of some of our TOC’s is there any reason we shouldn’t have the option when German passengers should?
When I was on the IOWSR (Isle of Wight Steam Railway) recently, the train consisting of non-corridor compartment stock, I boarded an empty compartment and then at the next stop I was asked to leave by a large party so they could have the entire compartment and all sit down. I thought that was a bit of a cheek...I would probably have done so by myself as it was a bit awkward but even so...
SWT 1st class compartments on the 442s? Used until withdrawal of the units in 2007.
That is indeed a cheek, and does highlight one of the issues with compartments. One could tell them to stuff it, but then you'd probably get them come in anyway and make the journey unpleasant.
When did the last compartement stock run in UK? Third rail MK1s ?
"Excuse me, would you mind if..."? = me moving
"You will move" = no I won't, just try lifting all 20 stone of me if you like
I'm quite strict on that in life in general. Ask nicely, you get. Demand, no chance, you get what you're legally entitled to and not a tiny thing more.