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Couldn't find an existing thread so I thought I would start one. 37667 and 37521 operated 1Z11 and 1Z12 as far as Gresty Green Through sidings where 37667 ran around and pulled us into Crewe p12. I don't suppose anyone has the exact mileage or a resource they can point me to? Railmiles doesn't work for 1Z12 presumably as it's confused by Gresty Green siding. Thanks.
 
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I think it is relatively straightforward to determine from the Railway Codes ELR information. While Realtimetrains says "Gresty Green Through Sdg", Railmiles has it as "Crewe Gresty Green Up Loop" but no mileage.

London Euston to Crewe is on line LEC
Stafford is at 133mi 43ch from London Euston (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/l/lec3.shtm)
Basford Hall Junction is at 156mi 16ch from London Euston (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/l/lec4.shtm)
Onto line BHI
Salop Goods Loop Junction is at 157mi 26ch from London Euston (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/b/bhi.shtm)
Onto line CSG
Gresty Lane Junction is at 157mi 55ch from London Euston (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/c/csg.shtm)
Onto line SYC
Gresty Lane Junction (connection from line CSG) is at 0mi 41ch from Crewe South Junction (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/s/syc.shtm)
Then Gresty Green Up Loop isn't recorded.
I assume it is Gresty Green East at 0mi 60ch

From that, I reckon Stafford to Crewe Gresty Green Up Loop must be 24mi 31ch. Railmiles suggests that Hereford - Selly Oak - Aston - Walsall - Stafford is 91mi 74ch so I make the total 116mi 25ch

Going back into Crewe, it is the distance from Gresty Green East to Crewe South Junction of 0mi 60ch and Crewe to Crewe South Junction which is 1mi 20 ch (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/l/lec5.shtm) so 2mi in total.

I guess there will be confirmation in a fixture report at some point.
 

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I think it is relatively straightforward to determine from the Railway Codes ELR information. While Realtimetrains says "Gresty Green Through Sdg", Railmiles has it as "Crewe Gresty Green Up Loop" but no mileage.

London Euston to Crewe is on line LEC
Stafford is at 133mi 43ch from London Euston (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/l/lec3.shtm)
Basford Hall Junction is at 156mi 16ch from London Euston (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/l/lec4.shtm)
Onto line BHI
Salop Goods Loop Junction is at 157mi 26ch from London Euston (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/b/bhi.shtm)
Onto line CSG
Gresty Lane Junction is at 157mi 55ch from London Euston (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/c/csg.shtm)
Onto line SYC
Gresty Lane Junction (connection from line CSG) is at 0mi 41ch from Crewe South Junction (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/s/syc.shtm)
Then Gresty Green Up Loop isn't recorded.
I assume it is Gresty Green East at 0mi 60ch

From that, I reckon Stafford to Crewe Gresty Green Up Loop must be 24mi 31ch. Railmiles suggests that Hereford - Selly Oak - Aston - Walsall - Stafford is 91mi 74ch so I make the total 116mi 25ch

Going back into Crewe, it is the distance from Gresty Green East to Crewe South Junction of 0mi 60ch and Crewe to Crewe South Junction which is 1mi 20 ch (source http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/elrs/_mileages/l/lec5.shtm) so 2mi in total.

I guess there will be confirmation in a fixture report at some point.
Wow thanks that's very helpful. Out of interest why is there a change from Gresty Green Up Loop to Green East? Hadn't made the connection of through siding to up loop!
 

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Out of interest why is there a change from Gresty Green Up Loop to Green East?
There isn't a mileage given for Gresty Green Up Loop, so I have assumed that the mileage is taken to be that at Gresty Green East, the next measurement point. Maybe it is actually a point just short of Gresty Green West.
0.37 GRESTY
0.41 Gresty Lane Junction with CSG (157.55)
0.60 Gresty down sidings and Gresty Green East
1.18 Gresty Green West
2.38 WILLASTON
Actually, try again. Previous fixture reports give the distance from Crewe to Crewe Gresty Green Up Loop as 1mi 30ch. I also got my sums wrong on the distance from Crewe to Crewe South Junction which is only 0mi 20ch. Let's go with 1m 30ch for the trip into Crewe. If that is the case, it is 30 chains further than Gresty Green East, so 116mi 55ch from Hereford via the route taken?
 

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Stop at Llandudno Town omitted due to the train being too long.
 
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