Tilting trains in Spain

[Wandering Shee]

Are any of the trains between Barcelona and Madrid tilting trains such as the Talgo Pendular?

Asking for someone who used to get travel sick on Pendolinos!

 

[Austriantrain]

Are any of the trains between Barcelona and Madrid tilting trains such as the Talgo Pendular?

Asking for someone who used to get travel sick on Pendolinos!

Barcelona - Madrid, for everyone not an aficionado, is high speed only. No tilt and very fast.

 

[hexagon789]

Are any of the trains between Barcelona and Madrid tilting trains such as the Talgo Pendular?

Asking for someone who used to get travel sick on Pendolinos!

No, they are conventional high-speed trains based on the Siemens Velaro ICE 3 design. Top speed is 310km/h.

The tilting stuff seems to be more used on upgraded classic routes I think.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

There are tilting trains on the classic Norte network, eg Madrid-Irun/Bilbao.
They run onto the Burgos-Madrid HSL at 250km/h.
The trains are Renfe class 120/121 built by CAF/Alstom, and are dual gauge/power supply.
The same trains run from Irun to Barcelona I believe.
There are also non-tilt versions of the same train, running eg Madrid-Toledo/Salamanca via the HSL.

There's also the Renfe class 130/730 which is a high-speed tilting train from Talgo.
The class 730 also has a diesel power pack to run on non-electrified routes.
It is used on Galicia-Madrid services via Zamora, though much of its tilting route has been eliminated by the new Zamora-Ourense HSL.

Generally, HS services from Madrid to Barcelona/Valencia/Malaga/Seville are non-tilt AVE trains, but occasionally a tilting train will turn up when the train runs through to the classic network (eg perhaps Madrid-Cordoba-Cadiz/Algeciras).
A few trains also run across Madrid now that there is a standard-gauge route under the city (eg Alacant-Madrid Chamartin-Santander/Leon).

 

[Chester1]

Are any of the trains between Barcelona and Madrid tilting trains such as the Talgo Pendular?

Asking for someone who used to get travel sick on Pendolinos!

I might be wrong but I think Talgo's have passive tilt not location based tilt. I think the degree of tilt on Talgos is much smaller too. That may or may not feel different to people with travel sickness on Pendolinos.

 

[Austriantrain]

There are tilting trains on the classic Norte network, eg Madrid-Irun/Bilbao.
They run onto the Burgos-Madrid HSL at 250km/h.
The trains are Renfe class 120/121 built by CAF/Alstom, and are dual gauge/power supply.
The same trains run from Irun to Barcelona I believe.
There are also non-tilt versions of the same train, running eg Madrid-Toledo/Salamanca via the HSL.

There's also the Renfe class 130/730 which is a high-speed tilting train from Talgo.
The class 730 also has a diesel power pack to run on non-electrified routes.
It is used on Galicia-Madrid services via Zamora, though much of its tilting route has been eliminated by the new Zamora-Ourense HSL.

Generally, HS services from Madrid to Barcelona/Valencia/Malaga/Seville are non-tilt AVE trains, but occasionally a tilting train will turn up when the train runs through to the classic network (eg perhaps Madrid-Cordoba-Cadiz/Algeciras).
A few trains also run across Madrid now that there is a standard-gauge route under the city (eg Alacant-Madrid Chamartin-Santander/Leon).

Are you sure classes 120/121 tilt? I don’t think so and cant find a source for it either.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Are you sure classes 120/121 tilt? I don’t think so and cant find a source for it either.

Come to think of it, I believe you are right - tilt is not mentioned on the CAF site.
I have travelled on them twice, on the twisting routes through Basque, and thought they must tilt, as they seem to do everything else (dual gauge, power).
But it's the Talgo S130 which tilts...
The S120 rides much better on high speed lines than on the classic routes.

There was also the Alstom/Fiat Alaris tilting train (Renfe class 490) based on the old Pendolino, but I'm not sure it is operational today.
Last seen on the Euromed routes I believe.

Renfe Class 490 - Wikipedia

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