Timetables during Castleton Bridge replacement work

[TUC]

There is a discussion on social media in Hebden Bridge area that the station is advising that the timetables for during the Castleton Bridge replacement work during September have not yet been confirmed. The National Rail disruptions page appears to include details of services during the disruption, as do other sites. However, when I highlight this, I was then advised by someone who had gone to the station to check further in the light of my comments that they were still advising that the online information had not yet been updated. Does anyone know the actual position?

 

[The Planner]

There is a discussion on social media in Hebden Bridge area that the station is advising that the timetables for during the Castleton Bridge replacement work during September have not yet been confirmed. The National Rail disruptions page appears to include details of services during the disruption, as do other sites. However, when I highlight this, I was then advised by someone who had gone to the station to check further in the light of my comments that they were still advising that the online information had not yet been updated. Does anyone know the actual position?

Looks to have been uploaded if you do a check at Rochdale on RTT.

 

[SteveM70]

Looks like one an hour Leeds to Rochdale; one an hour Leeds to Hebden; plus the usual Blackpool / Yorks

 

[Whisky Papa]

Not entirely relevant to Hebden Bridge, but the normal Headbolt Lane to Blackburn service has been linked to the service from Blackburn to Manchester Victoria (normally through to Rochdale) via Bolton each hour. There are some 10-15 minute dwells at Blackburn but it appears the normal fares from Todmorden to Manchester are valid this route (via National Rail Enquiries website anyway).

I'm really rather surprised the staff at Hebden Bridge are unaware of the timetable pattern at this late stage.

 

[TUC]

Looks to have been uploaded if you do a check at Rochdale on RTT.

It was RTT that I pointed those on the social media query towards, and it was that for which the ticket office still said hadn't been updated.

 

[Geeves]

The timetable was RTT a few weeks ago as we were discussing the Rochdale to Victoria via Blackburn train at work leading to passengers on a two hour tour!

This weekend also over laps with the Wigan line closure so much through Vic

 

[Whisky Papa]

Just noticed that 1B99 0649 from Hebden Bridge to York is still showing as running on RTT, although I assume this is cancelled during the works as there is no ECS move to work it (it normally comes empty from Newton Heath). It isn't showing as running on National Rail Enquiries at least.

 

[Old Yard Dog]

Northern seem to be going out of their way to make it as difficult as possible for passengers to get from Bradford to Manchester this weekend.

There are obviously no through trains from Bradford to Manchester - and there are also no trains from Bradford to Huddersfield or Blackburn which rules out two alternative routes. So the only rail option is to travel via Leeds. So you would expect Northern to grant a temporary easement allowing Bradford passengers to travel by this route using the "Via Hebden Bridge" fare. But they haven't. So instead of an off-peak CDR at £15.90, passengers have to pay £32.90 for an "Any permitted" off-peak SVR, valid via Leeds, for a journey which takes some 40 minutes longer.

The alternative is to use Northern's Rail Replacement bus. Good luck with that. The M62 will be closed near the Castleton bridge which will cause unimaginable traffic chaos. The bus is allowed 2 hrs 40 mins.

Ironically Bradford (Park Avenue) FC, newly relegated to the Eastern division of the Northern Premier League, are scheduled to make their only journey of the season west of the Pennines for an FA Trophy tie at Witton Albion in Northwich. I wonder if they'll make it.

 

[Par]

Rather frustratingly for me personally, no Rochdale to Leeds services on the weekends, but there is Mon - Fri.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Rather frustratingly for me personally, no Rochdale to Leeds services on the weekends, but there is Mon - Fri.

Hmmm. Is there additional engineering work as well as the planned M62 motorway bridge replacement work? Looks like Rochdale is going to be entirely served by rail replacement buses on Saturday/Sunday.

 

[Par]

Hmmm. Is there additional engineering work as well as the planned M62 motorway bridge replacement work? Looks like Rochdale is going to be entirely served by rail replacement buses on Saturday/Sunday.

I’m really not sure why the Leeds trains are terminating at Todmorden / Hebden Bridge on the weekends?

I need Shaw - Rochdale - Leeds - Headingley on the 21st, but if the dreaded RRB is to be avoided it will have to be:-

Shaw - Manchester Victoria - Leeds - Headingley

Not a significant time penalty, but considerably more expensive.

 

[sportzbar]

I’m really not sure why the Leeds trains are terminating at Todmorden / Hebden Bridge on the weekends?

Network rail are taking advantage of the closure at Castleton to perform other engineering works between Todmorden and Rochdale at weekends. It makes sense as the line would have to be closed between Rochdale and Todmorden to do these works at some point anyway, so might as well get it all done at the same time. Yes it will inconvenience a few but the bigger picture is that is actually less inconvenient for the majority....

 

[M60lad]

Looks like if Realtime Trains is right that the last train through before the closure is 01:53 Liverpool-Drax Biomass service which passes through Castleton about 05:50

Realtime Trains | 6E36 0153 Liverpool Biomass Tml Gbf to Drax Aes (Gbrf) | 06/09/2024

Real-time train running information for 6E36 0153 departure from Liverpool Biomass Tml Gbf to Drax Aes (Gbrf) on 06/09/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[JRT]

6–24 September
Times and routes FROM Leeds
(Monday – Friday)

12 Leeds – Huddersfield via Bradford
17 Leeds – Hebden Bridge via Dewsbury
27 Leeds – Halifax via Bradford
42 Leeds –> Rochdale (hourly) *
57 Leeds – Blackpool North via Bradford

No change to trains East of Leeds or Leeds–Bradford Interchange trains.

* The Leeds–Chester train will only operate Leeds–>Rochdale and Man Vic–Chester. In the opposite direction, the Chester–Leeds train will only operate Chester – Man Vic and Low Moor/Bradford Interchange –Leeds, which of course means that Mytholmroyd and Sowerby Bridge aren't served towards Halifax!!

● Additional engineering works will take place on the weekends.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Presumably walk up £6.30 Anytime Day Singles from Rochdale to Manchester Victoria are also valid via Todmorden/Accrington/Blackburn during the duration of the blockade? Would alighting/boarding at intermediate stations be permitted on such route "." tickets?

 

[Adam0984]

6–24 September
Times and routes FROM Leeds
(Monday – Friday)

12 Leeds – Huddersfield via Bradford
17 Leeds – Hebden Bridge via Dewsbury
27 Leeds – Halifax via Bradford
42 Leeds –> Rochdale (hourly) *
57 Leeds – Blackpool North via Bradford

No change to trains East of Leeds or Leeds–Bradford Interchange trains.

* The Leeds–Chester train will only operate Leeds–>Rochdale and Man Vic–Chester. In the opposite direction, the Chester–Leeds train will only operate Chester – Man Vic and Low Moor/Bradford Interchange –Leeds, which of course means that Mytholmroyd and Sowerby Bridge aren't served towards Halifax!!

● Additional engineering works will take place on the weekends.

So the Rochdale to Leeds runs in the express path with no additional calls at Mytholmroyd and Sowerby

 

[Thomas6187]

So the Rochdale to Leeds runs in the express path with no additional calls at Mytholmroyd and Sowerby

The Leeds-Rochdale service is 'all stops' during the block. The Rochdale-Leeds service is 'all stops' expect Low Moor

 

[JRT]

So the Rochdale to Leeds runs in the express path with no additional calls at Mytholmroyd and Sowerby

Well, it's looking that way for tomorrow

The Leeds-Rochdale service is 'all stops' during the block. The Rochdale-Leeds service is 'all stops' expect Low Moor

From Monday, the Rochdale to Leeds service has additional stops at Mytholmroyd and Sowerby Bridge

 

[Andyh82]

Network rail are taking advantage of the closure at Castleton to perform other engineering works between Todmorden and Rochdale at weekends. It makes sense as the line would have to be closed between Rochdale and Todmorden to do these works at some point anyway, so might as well get it all done at the same time. Yes it will inconvenience a few but the bigger picture is that is actually less inconvenient for the majority....

I presume there is also engineering work going on around Halifax this weekend?

The station is served only by buses. York to Blackpool services are diverting via Brighouse

I’m sure replacement buses would have been more extensive in the past. There is just an hourly all stations bus from Bradford to Manchester that takes the best part of three hours. No fast buses, no buses attempting to link into trains that are running rather than going the whole way by bus, just all stations that nobody will catch.

 

[SteveM70]

Yeah there is. Think it’s down by Dryclough

 

[Geeves]

Presumably walk up £6.30 Anytime Day Singles from Rochdale to Manchester Victoria are also valid via Todmorden/Accrington/Blackburn during the duration of the blockade? Would alighting/boarding at intermediate stations be permitted on such route "." tickets?

There's a replacement bus so I don't think the ticket would be valid on the Tour De East Lancs though I'm sure people have mistakenly boarded. At Victoria it now has changed to just showing Blackburn though yesterday it was back to showing Todmorden!

 

[td97]

It seems a pair of 195/0s are diagrammed on one of the Wigan to Manchester Victoria circuits this week (or least, have been yesterday and today).

 

[Adam0984]

It seems a pair of 195/0s are diagrammed on one of the Wigan to Manchester Victoria circuits this week (or least, have been yesterday and today).

As well on one of the 3 Leeds to Huddersfield via Bradford circuits having come off an early Leeds to Rochdale and back