TPE Mark 5A coaching stock progress

[Erniescooper]

Looks there is a Mk5 set out tomorrow as its Easter will it run tomorrow

Nothing happening now until Tuesday

 

[anamyd]

They sure were! Up to and including 68025 were built and badged Vossloh. The remainder are Stadler (from works number 2944).

thanks!

 

[anamyd]

There’s a little detailed difference on the front end. On the Vossloh locos there’s their logo moulded into the front end between the headlights, on the Stadler ones this is absent. Pic below of 68032 ‘Destroyer’ passing the new pedestrian part of Scarborough Bridge York. If you compare it with Andy’s excellent image of 68020 I think you’ll spot what I mean! Hope that helps

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I see now, thanks for the info! Some amazing photography in here too as always

 

[gtis]

centaur was parked up in York yesterday

 

[Fez14]

Someone previously mentioned the next testing on Tuesday, any guesses on any of the movements? Any tests on the core route?

 

[_toommm_]

Someone previously mentioned the next testing on Tuesday, any guesses on any of the movements? Any tests on the core route?

At a guess, I'd suspect the usual Manchester International Depot - Carlisle - Bletchley Relief 1 - Manchester International Depot (for the full MK5a set), and the sporadic York - Scarborough light loco training too.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P86061/2019/04/23/advanced Looks to be the best bet to start on Tuesday, followed by http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K01911/2019/04/23/advanced

EDIT: Looks to be a VAR schedule in also, with the Bletchley run curtailed to Rugby, as per: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P86060/2019/04/23/advanced

 

[sjpowermac]

Someone previously mentioned the next testing on Tuesday, any guesses on any of the movements? Any tests on the core route?

If it’s any help, the York to Scarborough light loco runs work most days. Here’s a summary of last weeks workings:

Monday 15/04/2019
68032 starting with 0B61 then full diagram finishing on 0B68

Tuesday 16/04/2019
68032 starting with 0B61 then full diagram finishing on 0B68

Wednesday 17/04/2019
68032 starting with 0B61 then 0B62/0B63/0B64

Thursday 18/04/2019
68032 starting with 0B61 then full diagram finishing on 0B68

Friday 19/04/2019
68024 starting with 0B60 then 0B61/0B62/0B63

The locos always end their diagram at the end of the line where they started.

This Friday 26th April 2019 the following are booked to run:
0P68 05:10 Longsight to York
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/N01728/2019/04/26/advanced


0M68 10:36 York to Longsight
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/N01727/2019/04/26/advanced

Both are light engine workings, most likely 0M68 will be 68024 ‘Centaur’ since that one has been working off York for several weeks now.

Screen shot is for York.

Hope that helps

 

[sjpowermac]

centaur was parked up in York yesterday
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Lovely image, I really like how you’ve caught the light.

 

[_toommm_]

Two fairly rushed shots from Heald Green last week - note the unusual destination on the DTSO (I think it's designated as??):

68020/MK5a by Tom Cox, on Flickr

68020/MK5a by Tom Cox, on Flickr

 

[sjpowermac]

Two fairly rushed shots from Heald Green last week - note the unusual destination on the DTSO (I think it's designated as??):

68020/MK5a by Tom Cox, on Flickr

68020/MK5a by Tom Cox, on Flickr

Fantastic images, Tom, thanks for sharing. The 68 certainly looks very ‘meaty’! Just ‘DT’ I think is the official designation, but I’m happy (as always!) to be corrected

 

[_toommm_]

Fantastic images, Tom, thanks for sharing. The 68 certainly looks very ‘meaty’! Just ‘DT’ I think is the official designation, but I’m happy (as always!) to be corrected

You certainly wouldn't want the DT hitting you in the face - that's for sure!

 

[sjpowermac]

For anyone out and about in the York-Scarborough area, 0B64 12:00 York to Scarborough has run with 68024 ‘Centaur’.

 

[68011]

Subject to testing (continued set handover to TPE), every train on LIV-SCA route (7 sets) should be loco hauled by Halloween. Then the MIA-MBR route should start to see them.

If the plan to change ends at Saltburn at certain times of day doesn't change however, there will still be a 185 diagram on the Middlesbrough route which will be formed of a 6 car 185.

Believe they are only going as far as Redcar Central and with the longer layovers at that end and the Airport end 7 sets will be required so 2 diagrams will continue as 185's.

 

[Ben Bow]

Believe they are only going as far as Redcar Central and with the longer layovers at that end and the Airport end 7 sets will be required so 2 diagrams will continue as 185's.

Instructors are learning the full route to Saltburn as plans are still not finalised. The problem for TPE is that they have already committed to serving Saltburn which the local council and media have picked up on:

"A direct train from Saltburn to Manchester has been given the green light to begin running in December 2019...
... lengthy meetings with rail bosses, the panel of northern political leaders found time to agree a TransPennine Express (TPE) service should run all the way to the East Cleveland Coast."

Full article here:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....trains-saltburn-manchester-given-15149803.amp

 

[sjpowermac]

Pic of 68024 ‘Centaur’ at Malton on 0B65 here:

https://flic.kr/p/

and returning on 0B66 here:

 

[68011]

Instructors are learning the full route to Saltburn as plans are still not finalised. The problem for TPE is that they have already committed to serving Saltburn which the local council and media have picked up on:

"A direct train from Saltburn to Manchester has been given the green light to begin running in December 2019...
... lengthy meetings with rail bosses, the panel of northern political leaders found time to agree a TransPennine Express (TPE) service should run all the way to the East Cleveland Coast."

Full article here:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....trains-saltburn-manchester-given-15149803.amp

Was aware of the Saltburn plan however it appears there isn’t enough time to get there and back now, wasn’t the Saltburn plan mentioned before it was found that the Boro & Newcastle paths need swapping to enable the longer turn around times at Manchester Airport? It looks like Redcar is as far as they can go with up to 20 minute turnarounds.

 

[Ben Bow]

Was aware of the Saltburn plan however it appears there isn’t enough time to get there and back now, wasn’t the Saltburn plan mentioned before it was found that the Boro & Newcastle paths need swapping to enable the longer turn around times as Manchester Airport? It looks like Redcar is as far as they can go with up to 20 minute turnarounds.

Plans seem to change constantly, I think current thinking is Redcar but the instructors are learning Saltburn to cover all bases.

 

[wezmerc]

Always thought the Saltburn idea was crazy primarily due to the already problematic level crossings in Redcar.

 

[K.o.R]

centaur was parked up in York yesterday
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Boy that blue front really shows up all the squished bugs

 

[sjpowermac]

I notice the MID-Carlisle ran this morning, followed by the 08:12 Carlisle to Bletchley. No record on RTT though beyond Winsford

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K01911/2019/04/23/advanced

I’m sure that’s more likely just a glitch on RTT, but does anyone know?

 

[sjpowermac]

Meanwhile a busy day for 68032 ‘Destroyer’ starting with 0B61 09:00 Scarborough to York then 0B62/0B63/0B64/0B65/0B66/0B67 and finally 0B68 16:00 York to Scarborough, shown here crossing the river Ouse at York.

 

[xc170]

Please tell me some kind of cover is going to be fitted to the Mk5 DT to cover that mess below the headlights?

 

[bengley]

Please tell me some kind of cover is going to be fitted to the Mk5 DT to cover that mess below the headlights?

Nope.

 

[Erniescooper]

I notice the MID-Carlisle ran this morning, followed by the 08:12 Carlisle to Bletchley. No record on RTT though beyond Winsford

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K01911/2019/04/23/advanced

I’m sure that’s more likely just a glitch on RTT, but does anyone know?

Every went fine with the run today, hopefully only two more to go for Set 6

 

[sjpowermac]

Every went fine with the run today, hopefully only two more to go for Set 6

Thanks for that, greatly appreciated

Fantastic news that only two more runs are needed

 

[D6975]

Please tell me some kind of cover is going to be fitted to the Mk5 DT to cover that mess below the headlights?

They really do look like a bit has fallen off don't they?

 

[BeHereNow]

Has driven and conductor training started on the CAF coaches and DT yet?

 

[themiller]

Please tell me some kind of cover is going to be fitted to the Mk5 DT to cover that mess below the headlights?

Do you mean the horns, coupler, buffers, connectors etc.?

 

[sjpowermac]

They really do look like a bit has fallen off don't they?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but I think in the metal they look very stylish.

Pic below of Nova 3 at York on 28th March 2019 whilst working the 15:45 MID-Scarborough test run.

 

[Jamesrob637]

A half-relevant question; will any be in service by 05 July, and if so what will the Airport to Newcastle be formed of? I'm thinking if these enter service from Monday 01 July (as has been suggested recently) then displaced 185s may bolster other Northern diagrams, especially on Summer Fridays. We're thinking of going to Newcastle on Friday 05 July, but don't want to encounter a wedged 3-car if we can help it otherwise we may drive up there. We could change to a Liverpool-Newcastle at Victoria if that'd be a longer train, but we'd be coming from Stockport so don't really want to encounter two changes of train. Thanks in advance!