TPE Mark 5A coaching stock progress

[LittleAH]

It's certainly my view that there will be a "sparks effect" and significant suppressed demand due to the outrageous levels of overcrowding on the 185s, and that these sets will indeed be full very quickly. I reckon they will need to be extended to 7 or possibly even 8 coaches in pretty short order, that or put them on the Liverpool-Nottingham where they will be about right for demand and order more 80x.

Given that most of the overcrowding is on the core route of York to Manchester and that route will see double 185's on the Hulls, double capacity on the 802's and 100+ extra seats on the Mk 5's then I doubt these seats will fill up as many expect, bar peak services. TPE this time next year will have around 700 seats an hour extra. Maybe post TRU disruption we'll see these seats fill up quick.

What's clear though is that those 700 seats or so are needed ASAP... and we're not far off now!

 

[sjpowermac]

The depot's about done at Scarbs. Any TPE insiders know whether they might be keeping that set at the seaside to make sure that it fits, or whavever it is that you do to make sure the depot can be used?

I’m certainly not an insider, but this looks promising.
Tuesday 13.08.2019
05:15 Longsight to Scarborough TMD
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K02890/2019/08/13/advanced

 

[Bertie the bus]

There are paths for a 5Z47 from Basford Hall - Longtown in for Monday and Tuesday. There were similar paths two days last week but nothing ran. There have been several over the last month or two and none have run. Strange question, but do these paths serve a purpose? Are any going to be used for the reported secure storage of Mk 5as? Are there concrete plans to move some?

 

[BeHereNow]

The current plan for new trains intro is as follows...

Ad hoc Mk5A on Liverpool to Scarborough (05:56 from Liverpool, 0941 from Scarborough) from 5 August.


The main day to watch is Monday 21 October: a class 802 on Liverpool to Newcastle and back diagram will enter service.

4x Mk5A trains in passenger service from that day as well on Liverpool to Scarborough. Will remain as 4 sets until spring 2020.

Plus the 397s start on that day on select diagrams on the WCML.

Any more movement on these dates?

 

[BMIFlyer]

Any more movement on these dates?

Yes but I can’t divulge the date publicly.

(Nor via DM).

 

[Plethora]

Yes but I can’t divulge the date publicly.

(Nor via DM).

Can you divulge a date by which the date is likely to be divulged?

 

[BMIFlyer]

Can you divulge a date by which the date is likely to be divulged?

Probably able to divulge something before the end of August.

 

[BeHereNow]

I wonder what the reason for the latest delay is, nothing has come out about any technical failures...

 

[BMIFlyer]

I wonder what the reason for the latest delay is, nothing has come out about any technical failures...

Staff training has restarted again so things are moving along now. Please bear with!

 

[The Northern Star]

The longtown paths are for x2 MK5a sets to be stored but Freightliner are messing the moves up!

 

[tpjm]

The longtown paths are for x2 MK5a sets to be stored but Freightliner are messing the moves up!

Care to explain what you mean and how you know Freightliner are “messing the moves up”?

 

[EE Andy b1]

As them 2 Mk5a sets have been stood in Basford Hall now for several weeks, i too would like to know how Freightliner are supposedly "messing the moves up".

 

[Erniescooper]

TP08 should be making its way from Portbury to MID tomorrow

 

[EE Andy b1]

TP08 should be making its way from Portbury to MID tomorrow

Is there any room at the Inn?

That Mk5a set in the X shed on Manchester Traincare has never moved yet.

3 roads in the Up sidings still not in use!

 

[FFFC 57]

Is there any room at the Inn?

That Mk5a set in the X shed on Manchester Traincare has never moved yet.

3 roads in the Up sidings still not in use!

5up & 6up are in use.

 

[EE Andy b1]

5up & 6up are in use.

With what?

There was a Mk5a set, with Class 68 on 2 Up sidings.

 

[FFFC 57]

With what?

There was a Mk5a set, with Class 68 on 2 Up sidings.

2 UP Has CET facilities, even though they are not in service the toilet tanks need emptying sometimes.

 

[EE Andy b1]

Yes but my point was 5,6 & 7 Up sidings were being made fit (supposedly) for TPE Mk5a use. Not used yet that i know of.

2,3, & 4 Up are normally for Class 323s and 390s. I believe Northern will be moving out eventually.

Some sets were going into secure storage i believe, 3 at Crewe but none have yet.

 

[SP Man]

There are paths for a 5Z47 from Basford Hall - Longtown in for Monday and Tuesday. There were similar paths two days last week but nothing ran. There have been several over the last month or two and none have run. Strange question, but do these paths serve a purpose? Are any going to be used for the reported secure storage of Mk 5as? Are there concrete plans to move some?

If all goes to plan a 47 may be on load 15 in the morning!

 

[EE Andy b1]

If all goes to plan a 47 may be on load 15 in the morning!

That plan has not gone too well upto now.

So are we going to see all 3 Mk5a sets going from Crewe to Longtown together tomorrow?

 

[SP Man]

That plan has not gone too well upto now.

So are we going to see all 3 Mk5a sets going from Crewe to Longtown together tomorrow?

All now at Basford Hall and just need putting together in the morning.

 

[The Northern Star]

If all goes to plan a 47 may be on load 15 in the morning!

If you decide to run it... PINK SHED was allox the other day and it got CAPPED! Dreadful

 

[The Northern Star]

Times for TP08's delivery...

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K02913/2019/08/13/advanced

 

[Bertie the bus]

If all goes to plan a 47 may be on load 15 in the morning!

Thanks. Another early morning to check if it's running then. Hopefully it will this time.

 

[EE Andy b1]

Thanks. Another early morning to check if it's running then. Hopefully it will this time.

Get your video camera ready. Maybe!

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K02530/2019/08/13/advanced

 

[anamyd]

2 UP Has CET facilities, even though they are not in service the toilet tanks need emptying sometimes.

the toilets are being "tested" on the test runs then...?

 

[tpjm]

the toilets are being "tested" on the test runs then...?

Yes.

 

[FFFC 57]

Yes but my point was 5,6 & 7 Up sidings were being made fit (supposedly) for TPE Mk5a use. Not used yet that i know of.

2,3, & 4 Up are normally for Class 323s and 390s. I believe Northern will be moving out eventually.

Some sets were going into secure storage i believe, 3 at Crewe but none have yet.

They are ready and waiting. But with only one set on shed, it would be pointless putting it in there.

 

[Bertie the bus]

5Z47 Basford Hall - Longtown finally ran today. 47830 with sets TP02 and TP05 for secure storage.
Sunny when it passed me too - https://flic.kr/p/2gW87Qd

 

[The Northern Star]

5Z47 Basford Hall - Longtown finally ran today. 47830 with sets TP02 and TP05 for secure storage.
Sunny when it passed me too - https://flic.kr/p/2gW87Qd

SP Man at the helm