Does that mean the "Nova 3" set are out of service UFN? Thanks in advance
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TPE Nova 3 (Class 68 + Mk5s) updates and withdrawal from service
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Spartacus
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Just the ones on the depot at Scarborough, 68019 & TP08 have been working today as normal.
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It's still appalling that it's edging ever closer to TWO years since the first MK5 set was delivered and at least 2/3 months since the last one arrived but we've still only got max 4 sets out daily, this is despite a full timetable now been in operation.
The next step in their introduction involved stock being overnight at York and as discussed upthread training for York traincrew was stopped for a period so it isn't easy to step up from four to six (or seven) diagrams.
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023/7 on 1E37 : 1254 Liv-Scar
020/9 on 1F64 : 1134 Scar-Liv
Both keeping good time.
My first time on 020, just three more for the TPE set.
020/9 on 1F64 : 1134 Scar-Liv
Both keeping good time.
My first time on 020, just three more for the TPE set.
Posting elsewhere indicates one 68+Mk5 set out on Scarborough to York shuttles alongside 185s on the other diagrams. No 68+Mk5 across the Pennines today.
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How close to Edinburgh do these sets get, currently? Newcastle?
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York unless some Middlesbrough have gone over, in which case Northallerton on the ECML
That seems very unlikely. While I accept that it isn't a failsafe method of working out what the plans are, there is no suggestion in the open data feeds that any of the Redcar services are linked to diagrams starting at Longsight by that time.
So is it expected that introduction onto the Redcars will have to wait until the December timetable change? Or might they be introduced in the interim? Thanks
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Hi anyone know there daigrams from may 2020 pleae
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Billy Edmiston
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Hi Anyone know the daigrams for May TT cAHNGE PLEASE
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Same as the current ones. Until training of York crew is underway the number of diagrams won't change.
When they increase the number of diagrams the extra ones will be those shown at the end of this message.
https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...s-no-images-please.190693/page-3#post-4234781
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oki there is a set at york depot and a 68 to start this week
Ah good, that sounds promising. How many traincrew can they train in the next 10 weeks before the May timetable? is it likely to be enough for the York starters on the Liverpool to Scarborough route to go 68+Mk5 at the May timetable change?
None. Training on 68/mk.5's, due to recommence next week, has been binned until at least June, despite train crew already being booked onto courses. Utter, utter, shambles..... Its 4 years in June since TPE announced they would be using 68's as a "quick fix" to their capacity problems....
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I don't know why TPE didn't just bother just ordering 44 802s. Be much simpler and in service much quicker than the current situation. Currently with most 397 and mk5 stock not in service that millions of pounds of rolling stock sitting around not earning money.
That has been explained before. There wasn't and still isn't capacity to build the extra 802s.
No, that is a 185 - the diagram starts at York and ends in Manchester (Ardwick).
Weekday 68 diagrams are here https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...-no-images-please.190693/page-19#post-4406695
Thank you for the reply and the link to the diagrams!
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Not booked for a 68.
The following service, 1E51 is today allocated 68023.
Info for today (as I understand it)
68019 TP08
1P05 0242 Manchester Piccadilly - York
1F50 0528 York - Liverpool Lime Street
1E27 0754 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F64 1134 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E41 1454 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F78 1834 Scarborough - Manchester Victoria
1E53 2115 Manchester Victoria - Scarborough
68021 TP12
1F52 0534 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E29 0854 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F66 1234 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E43 1554 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1P92 1934 Scarborough - Manchester Airport
68023 TP07
1E23 0627 Manchester Piccadilly - Scarborough
1F60 0934 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E37 1254 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F74 1634 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E51 1954 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
68020 TP09
1F54 0634 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E31 0953 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F68 1334 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E45 1654 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1P94 2034 Scarborough - Manchester Airport
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DannyMich2018
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would have mad sense just two train fleets instead of 4, however what's done is done and we'll have to accept it.
As I've said many times before, Transpennine don't care about capacity, they care about cost and revenue. Hence why the ORCATS raiding 802s were planned into service quickly, and the costly extra carriages of the CAF stock have been delayed as much as possible.
Do the TPE evangelists believe me now?
On the other hand...
https://www.firstgroupplc.com/news-and-media/latest-news/2020/04-03-2020.aspx
I'm sure I've seen crowds wailing tearfully on the streets across the North, just like when Princess Di died...
The rationale for the Mark 5As was (and to a large extent remains) perfectly sound - the implementation is what has been atrocious. The trains are mechanically sound and forward-compatible with the electrification that we might after all (please, gods!!) be getting under TRU.
https://www.firstgroupplc.com/news-and-media/latest-news/2020/04-03-2020.aspx
I'm sure I've seen crowds wailing tearfully on the streets across the North, just like when Princess Di died...
The rationale for the Mark 5As was (and to a large extent remains) perfectly sound - the implementation is what has been atrocious. The trains are mechanically sound and forward-compatible with the electrification that we might after all (please, gods!!) be getting under TRU.
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