TPE Nova 3 (Class 68 + Mk5s) updates and withdrawal from service

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Thanks you for that can plan a day out now.

 

[68011]

For info this afternoons 1F68 terminated at MCV and 1E45 started from MCV due to flooding in the Wavertree Techno Park area.

 

[43055]

Monday - Saturday

Set 1
1F48 05.55 MCV-LIV
1E25 06.56 LIV-SCA
1F62 10.41 SCA-LIV
1E39 13.56 LIV-SCA
1F76 17.44 SCA-LIV
1J53 20.56 LIV-SYB

Set 2
1E23 05.56 LIV-SCA
1F60 09.41 SCA-LIV
1E37 12.56 LIV-SCA
1F74 16.44 SCA-LIV
1E51 19.56 LIV-SCA
1P98 22.46 SCA-MAN

Sunday

Set 1
1E29 08.56 LIV-SCA
1F66 12.41 SCA-LIV
1E43 15.52 LIV-SCA
1F80 19.44 SCA-LIV

Set 2
9M04 08.25 MCV-LIV
1E31 09.55 LIV-SCA
1F68 13.44 SCA-LIV
1E45 16:52 LIV-SCA
1P42 20.42 SCA-MIA

Thank you for these. Are the sets running daily now or are there still some days where no sets will be running like the first few weeks when one set was running?

 

[sjpowermac]

Thank you for these. Are the sets running daily now or are there still some days where no sets will be running like the first few weeks when one set was running?

Last week it worked out as follows:
Mon 1 set
Tue 1 set
Wed 2 sets
Thurs 2 sets
Fri 2 sets
Sat 2 sets
Sun 1 set

Thursday and Saturday were affected by a shortage of train crew and for the same reason there was one as opposed to two diagrams on Sunday. Hope that helps

 

[68011]

Thank you for these. Are the sets running daily now or are there still some days where no sets will be running like the first few weeks when one set was running?

Both diagrams were booked to run daily as of the 23rd September but as posted above the first day 2 sets worked was the 25th.

 

[sjpowermac]

Nova 3 in service

Full details of workings below.

Saturday 21.09.2019
68026 plus TP11
5E23/1E23/1F60/5H60

Notes
1F60 cancelled between Manchester Victoria and Liverpool LS
Train forward as 5H60 12:25 Manchester Victoria to Longsight

Sunday 22.09.2019
68027 plus TP09
5E29/1E29/5H29

Notes
1E29 cancelled between Manchester Victoria and Scarborough due to a problem with the train.
Train forward as 5H29 09:47 Manchester Victoria-Longsight

Monday 23.09.2019
68025 plus TP04 (Liverpool end)
5F48 04:54 Longsight-Manchester Vic
1F48 05:55 Manchester Vic-Liverpool LS
1E25 06:56 Liverpool LS-York
1F62 11:38 York-Liverpool LS
1E39 13:56 Liverpool LS-Scarborough
1F76 17:44 Scarborough-Liverpool LS
1J53 20:56 Liverpool LS-Stalybridge
5H53 21:57 Stalybridge-Longsight

Notes: 1E25 cancelled between York and Scarborough due to a passenger being taken ill. 1F62 started from York.

Tuesday 24.09.2019
68025 plus TP04
5E23 04:06 Longsight-LIV
1E23 05:56 Liverpool LS-York
1F60 10:38 York-Liverpool LS
1E37 12:56 Liverpool LS-Scarborough
1F74 16:44 Scarborough-Liverpool LS
1E51 19:56 Liverpool LS-Scarborough
1P98 22:46 Scarborough-Manchester Picc
5F86 01:32 Manchester Picc-Longsight

Notes:
1E23 cancelled between York and Scarborough due to the train being 37 late at York.
1F60 started at York.

Wednesday 25.09.2019
68025 plus TP04 (Liverpool)
5F48/1F48/1E25/1F62/1E39/1F76/1J53/5H53

68027 plus TP09 (Scarborough)
5E23/1E23/1F60/1E37/1F74/1E51/1P98/5F86

Thursday 26.09.2019
68025 plus TP04 (Scarborough)
5F48/1F48/1E25/1F62/1E39/1F76/1J53/5H53

68027 plus TP09 (Liverpool)
5E23/1E23/1F60/1E37/5F74*/5E51**/1E51**/1P98/5F86

Notes:
*1F74 was cancelled due to shortage of train crew.
68027 forward as 5F74 16:44 Scarborough-Liverpool Lime Street.
5F74 cancelled between Manchester Victoria and Liverpool Lime Street. Stock forward to turn back siding as 5F74

**5E51 Manchester Vic turn back siding to Manchester Victoria then
1E51 started from Manchester Victoria as 20:32 to Scarborough.

Friday 27.09.2019
68025 plus TP04 (Scarborough end)
1F48/ 1E25/ 1F62/ 1E39/ 1F76/ 1J53

68026 plus TP11 (Scarborough end)
1E23/ 1F60*/5F60*

68027 plus TP09 (Scarborough end)
5E37**/1E37**/ 1E51/ 1F74/ 1P98

Notes
*1F60 cancelled at Manchester Victoria. 68026 plus TP11 forward as 5H60 11:56 Manchester Victoria-Longsight

**5E37 13:02 Longsight-Manchester Victoria
1E37 started from Manchester Victoria as 13:32 Manchester Victoria-Scarborough

Saturday 28.10.2019
68025 plus TP04 (Scarborough end)
5F48/1F48/1E25/1F62/5H39*

68027 plus TP09 (Scarborough end)
5E23/1E23/1F60/5H60**

*1E39 cancelled throughout due to lack of train crew. Train forward as 5H39 13:56 Liverpool-Longsight

**1F60 terminated at Manchester Victoria due to shortage of train crew. Train forward as 5H60 11:56 Manchester Victoria-Longsight

Sunday 29.09.2019
68027 plus TP09 (Scarborough end)
5M04 07:24 Longsight-Manchester Victoria
(9M04 08:25 Manchester Victoria-Liverpool cancelled due to flooding)
1E31 10:32 Manchester Victoria-Scarborough
1F68 13:44 Scarborough-Manchester
5F68 15:56 Manchester Victoria-Eccles
5E45 17:17 Eccles-Manchester Victoria
1E45 17:32 Manchester Victoria-Scarborough
1P42 20:42 Scarborough-Manchester Airport (23:23)
5H42 23:40 Manchester Airport-Longsight (00:19)

Services today were cancelled between Manchester Victoria and Liverpool due to flooding.

 

[Ryry]

Is there a date for these to enter service at Middlesbrough

 

[gimmea50anyday]

For today at least according to Genius 1F60 off Scarborough is running as a 185 vice Mk5, 1F62 will be TP09 (currently at York as 1E25) and 9M07 off Newcastle will be 802203 (off 5E05, vice cancelled 1E05)

Of course the usual caveats apply.....

Edit:- 9M07 cancelled

 

[43055]

Last week it worked out as follows:
Mon 1 set
Tue 1 set
Wed 2 sets
Thurs 2 sets
Fri 2 sets
Sat 2 sets
Sun 1 set

Thursday and Saturday were affected by a shortage of train crew and for the same reason there was one as opposed to two diagrams on Sunday. Hope that helps

Both diagrams were booked to run daily as of the 23rd September but as posted above the first day 2 sets worked was the 25th.

Thank you both for your replies. I might have a go at finding one tomorrow if they are out.

 

[37201xoIM]

Is there a date for these to enter service at Middlesbrough

I'd be very surprised if this happened before next Spring.

 

[fowler9]

Any news on what is currently out today?

 

[68011]

Any news on what is currently out today?

68027 on 1F48, 1E35 etc, other diagram is a unit.

 

[fowler9]

68027 on 1F48, 1E35 etc, other diagram is a unit.

Cheers mate.

 

[37201xoIM]

... 1E35 etc, other diagram is a unit.

Is that due to a fleet issue or staff shortage?

 

[Spartacus]

Does anyone know what’s out today, 1E23 noted to have started at MCV today with no obvious inward stock there. TIA.

 

[sjpowermac]

Does anyone know what’s out today, 1E23 noted to have started at MCV today with no obvious inward stock there. TIA.

68027 plus TP09 on 1F48 diagram.
I think the stock for 1E23 came from Ardwick on the back of this one
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y80420/2019/10/02/advanced
so 185.

 

[Ben Bow]

Do we know which set was delivered from Portbury yesterday, or indeed if it was even a mk.5 set?

Looks like its just the one set out again today with the uber reliable 68027, stepping up at Scarborough though to work F60 off E25.

 

[sjpowermac]

Do we know which set was delivered from Portbury yesterday, or indeed if it was even a mk.5 set?

Looks like its just the one set out again today with the uber reliable 68027, stepping up at Scarborough though to work F60 off E25.

TP13 11:20 Portbury to Crewe South Yard behind 57305 with another 57 on the back.

Many thanks for the info about the set stepping up.

Quite so about 68027 plus TP09, its 8th consecutive day in traffic.

 

[Ben Bow]

TP13 11:20 Portbury to Crewe South Yard behind 57305 with another 57 on the back.

Many thanks for the info about the set stepping up.

Quite so about 68027 plus TP09, its 8th consecutive day in traffic.

Thanks for that.

 

[D6700]

68027 confirmed on the 09:41 ex Scarborough - I boarded at York (10:38), bound for Liverpool and pleasantly surprised given the initial gen and not having seen Ben Bow's update.

Travelling with an Advance, booked a month ago, heading to the airport for a flight. Not only have I dropped lucky with the haulage, my ticket itself is equally hellfire - the ticket number starts with 37415-37416-6881-... (the latter became 37610)!

 

[sjpowermac]

68027 confirmed on the 09:41 ex Scarborough - I boarded at York (10:38), bound for Liverpool and pleasantly surprised given the initial gen and not having seen Ben Bow's update.

Travelling with an Advance, booked a month ago, heading to the airport for a flight. Not only have I dropped lucky with the haulage, my ticket itself is equally hellfire - the ticket number starts with 37415-37416-6881-... (the latter became 37610)!

Sounds like a fix to me
Enjoy your trip

 

[D6700]

Sounds like a fix to me
Enjoy your trip

Ta

Ironically, I've heard that it was a fix - but one done for senior management, later on!

 

[The Northern Star]

TP11 Loco: 68026
1F48 05.56 MCV-LIV
1E25 06.56 LIV-SCA
1F62 10.41 SCA-LIV
1E39 13.56 LIV-SCA
1F76 17.44 SCA-LIV
1J53 20.56 LIV-SYB

TP09 Loco: 68027
1E23 05.56 LIV-SCA
1F60 0941 SCA-LIV
1E37 12.56 LIV-SCA
1F74 16.44 SCA-LIV
1E51 19.56 LIV-SCA
1P98 22.46 SCA-MAN

 

[sjpowermac]

TP11 Loco: 68026
1F48 05.56 MCV-LIV
1E25 06.56 LIV-SCA
1F62 10.41 SCA-LIV
1E39 13.56 LIV-SCA
1F76 17.44 SCA-LIV
1J53 20.56 LIV-SYB

TP09 Loco: 68027
1E23 05.56 LIV-SCA
1F60 0941 SCA-LIV
1E37 12.56 LIV-SCA
1F74 16.44 SCA-LIV
1E51 19.56 LIV-SCA
1P98 22.46 SCA-MAN

Many thanks for those.
68026 ‘Liverpool end’ of its train.
68027 ‘Scarborough end’ of its train.

 

[sjpowermac]

68026 worked
1E39 13:56 Liverpool LS-Scarborough

But
1F76 17:44 Scarborough-Liverpool LS
is a Class 185!

Did the 68 ‘step up’ and do 1F74?

 

[wilsontown]

If 1F74 is the 1644 off Scarborough, the answer is no as this was also a 185.

 

[sjpowermac]

If 1F74 is the 1644 off Scarborough, the answer is no as this was also a 185.

Yes, 1F74 is the 16:44 off Scarborough. Thank you for your reply, appreciated.

I’ve heard it’s gone to the new Scarborough TMD but no official word on that one...

 

[68011]

68026 worked
1E39 13:56 Liverpool LS-Scarborough

But
1F76 17:44 Scarborough-Liverpool LS
is a Class 185!

Did the 68 ‘step up’ and do 1F74?

The set went to Scarborough TMD, It’s there for training and expected to be there for at least a week.

 

[sjpowermac]

The set went to Scarborough TMD, It’s there for training and expected to be there for at least a week.

Thank you for that, greatly appreciated

 

[Ben Bow]

Training for Scarborough crews starts this week.