TPE Nova 3 (Class 68 + Mk5s) updates and withdrawal from service

[Spartacus]

On the other hand...
https://www.firstgroupplc.com/news-and-media/latest-news/2020/04-03-2020.aspx
I'm sure I've seen crowds wailing tearfully on the streets across the North, just like when Princess Di died...

The rationale for the Mark 5As was (and to a large extent remains) perfectly sound - the implementation is what has been atrocious. The trains are mechanically sound and forward-compatible with the electrification that we might after all (please, gods!!) be getting under TRU.

That's a rather unfortunate photograph for a page about someone leaving the company!

 

[37201xoIM]

That's a rather unfortunate photograph for a page about someone leaving the company!

Ha ha, I rather take your point!

 

[Roger B]

That's a rather unfortunate photograph for a page about someone leaving the company!

Or a subliminal message revealing First's true feelings about Goodwin's departure! Or could even be a shot of Goodwin himself after a fairly radical facial and spa session, looking forward to anything rather than trying to sort out the basket-case that TPE became.

 

[NewSt]

Hi,

Does anybody know if any Nova 3s will be in Manchester today between 11:30 and 16:30 please?

Thanks in advance.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Hi,

Does anybody know if any Nova 3s will be in Manchester today between 11:30 and 16:30 please?

Thanks in advance.

This is from one of the Nova groups on Facebook:

“A reminder that Sunday 08 March has an amended timetable again so nova fleet diagrams will be affected.

Below are usual nova routes

North route
No trains Piccadilly to Airport,
Liverpool to Victoria shuttles (185s),

The Liverpool-Edinburgh services will operate Huddersfield-Edinburgh only,

The Liverpool-Scarborough services will operate York-Malton ONLY.

The Airport-Newcastle services will operate Piccadilly-Newcastle only.

Anglo Scottish services via WCML will operate Piccadilly-Scotland.”

 

[NewSt]

This is from one of the Nova groups on Facebook:

“A reminder that Sunday 08 March has an amended timetable again so nova fleet diagrams will be affected.

Below are usual nova routes

North route
No trains Piccadilly to Airport,
Liverpool to Victoria shuttles (185s),

The Liverpool-Edinburgh services will operate Huddersfield-Edinburgh only,

The Liverpool-Scarborough services will operate York-Malton ONLY.

The Airport-Newcastle services will operate Piccadilly-Newcastle only.

Anglo Scottish services via WCML will operate Piccadilly-Scotland.”

Thank you! Might try my luck for the Nova 2s instead in that case.

 

[BeHereNow]

None. Training on 68/mk.5's, due to recommence next week, has been binned until at least June, despite train crew already being booked onto courses. Utter, utter, shambles..... Its 4 years in June since TPE announced they would be using 68's as a "quick fix" to their capacity problems....

@LittleAH CAFs fault I assume?

 

[LittleAH]

@LittleAH CAFs fault I assume?

Can I ask why I am being tagged?

 

[BeHereNow]

You seem to have information relating to the delays being CAFs fault?

 

[Tom Clarke]

Morning all, any gen available on which 68s are out today?
Cheers

 

[sjpowermac]

Morning all, any gen available on which 68s are out today?
Cheers

Saturday 14.03.2020
All initial workings confirmed by sight:

68028 ‘Lord President’ plus TP08
(Loco on Liverpool end)
1P05 0242 Manchester Piccadilly - York
1F50 0528 York - Liverpool Lime Street
1E27 0754 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F64 1134 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E41 1454 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F78 1834 Scarborough - Manchester Victoria
1E53 2115 Manchester Victoria - Scarborough

68020 ‘Reliance’ plus TP09
(Loco on Scarborough end)
1F52 0534 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E29 0854 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F66 1234 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E43 1554 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1P92 1934 Scarborough - Manchester Airport

68026 ‘Enterprise’ plus TP11
(Loco on Scarborough end)
1E23 0627 Manchester Piccadilly - Scarborough
1F60 0934 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E37 1254 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F74 1634 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E51 1954 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough

68023 ‘Achilles’ plus TP07
(Loco on Scarborough end)
1F54 0634 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E31 0953 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F68 1334 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E45 1654 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1P94 2034 Scarborough - Manchester Airport

 

[Jamesrob637]

When will 4 diagrams become more diagrams?

 

[Spartacus]

When will 4 diagrams become more diagrams?

When more 68s and stock are allocated to them.

 

[JonathanH]

When will 4 diagrams become more diagrams?

When the training is further progressed for TPE traincrew at York. The remaining three Scarborough diagrams for 185s start or finish at York.

 

[pieguyrob]

Saturday 14.03.2020
All initial workings confirmed by sight:

68028 ‘Lord President’ plus TP08
(Loco on Liverpool end)
1P05 0242 Manchester Piccadilly - York
1F50 0528 York - Liverpool Lime Street
1E27 0754 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F64 1134 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E41 1454 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F78 1834 Scarborough - Manchester Victoria
1E53 2115 Manchester Victoria - Scarborough

68020 ‘Reliance’ plus TP09
(Loco on Scarborough end)
1F52 0534 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E29 0854 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F66 1234 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E43 1554 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1P92 1934 Scarborough - Manchester Airport

68026 ‘Enterprise’ plus TP11
(Loco on Scarborough end)
1E23 0627 Manchester Piccadilly - Scarborough
1F60 0934 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E37 1254 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F74 1634 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E51 1954 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough

68023 ‘Achilles’ plus TP07
(Loco on Scarborough end)
1F54 0634 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E31 0953 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1F68 1334 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street
1E45 1654 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough
1P94 2034 Scarborough - Manchester Airport

Thanks for that. Saw all four at either Leeds or York. I entered the station as 68023 was leaving so didn't get the coaching stock.

 

[sjpowermac]

Thanks for that. Saw all four at either Leeds or York. I entered the station as 68023 was leaving so didn't get the coaching stock.

I’m really pleased that you managed to see them all.

I believe stock for the one you missed is as follows:
TP07
11507 (First class)
12719
12720
12721
12807 (Driving trailer)

 

[mjn]

There's a couple of moves between York and Gresty today, which look to be locos:

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R03039/2020-03-17/detailed

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H48772/2020-03-17/detailed

 

[Halish Railway]

It looks like all of the diagrams are cancelled today.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Two Nova 3s are in service each day under the emergency timetable but folks please don't go to stations trying to tick 68s off. I know a few on here live next to rail tracks so please be reliant on them to post here and update us with which sets are out.

 

[TheSel]

Two Nova 3s are in service each day under the emergency timetable but folks please don't go to stations trying to tick 68s off. I know a few on here live next to rail tracks so please be reliant on them to post here and update us with which sets are out.

Why would anyone want to tick a 68 off? They've done nothing wrong!

 

[Jamesrob637]

Why would anyone want to tick a 68 off? They've done nothing wrong!

I was referring to ticking them off at stations as opposed to very quiet footpaths and gardens for those who live alongside the line of which a couple are Forum members

 

[47418]

68021 and 68023 out on tp today seen from garden

 

[D6700]

Why would anyone want to tick a 68 off? They've done nothing wrong!

There are some people in Scarborough who'd like to give the 68's a damn good thrashing*, as opposed to some of us, who appreciate their damn good thrashing! And now they are being told to stay at home

(*spawns images of Basil Fawlty)

 

[37201xoIM]

There are some people in Scarborough who'd like to give the 68's a damn good thrashing*, as opposed to some of us, who appreciate their damn good thrashing! And now they are being told to stay at home

(*spawns images of Basil Fawlty)

They are however somewhat more reliable than a 1970s Morris Minor.......

 

[TheSel]

They are however somewhat more reliable than a 1970s Morris Minor.......

At the risk of being called pedantic, and/or going too far off topic, Basil's car in Fawlty Towers wasn't a Morris Minor, it was an Austin 1100 Countryman - WLG142E. Details here: https://www.imcdb.org/v019718.html

 

[ainsworth74]

Whilst the deep dive into the history of motoring with Basil Fawlty is interesting it is a touch off-topic

 

[37201xoIM]

... for which I can only apologise sincerely. (That's for the vehicle misidentification, not the topic-meander........)

 

[The Northern Star]

Delete if not permitted

• 68032 allocated to tonight's 6G06 1939 Basford Hall to Bescot and will stay on diagram and work 6G06/6K02/6C02/6K05...
• 68028 heading Crewe DRS to go onto DRS work
• 68024, 68033 and 68034 are leaving Crewe DRS bound for TPE work (Heard 033/034 are getting more mods)

 

[Jamesrob637]

Delete if not permitted

• 68032 allocated to tonight's 6G06 1939 Basford Hall to Bescot and will stay on diagram and work 6G06/6K02/6C02/6K05...
• 68028 heading Crewe DRS to go onto DRS work
• 68024, 68033 and 68034 are leaving Crewe DRS bound for TPE work (Heard 033/034 are getting more mods)

TPE pulling freight will look odd/interesting. I remember InterCity locos occasionally drafted in on freight in the 90s and early-00s

 

[The Northern Star]

According to the plan..

• 68028 will be on 6G06 tonight then 6K02/6C02/6K05 tomorrow...
• 68021 and 68034 are moving to Crewe DRS Gresty today at 1700. This is so 68021 can have a battery charge (They're flat) and so 68034 can have ETS repairs.

Subject to change.