Train Describer Messages

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  1. jon0844

    jon0844 Veteran Member

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    I wonder what this was a few days ago?

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  2. GB

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    Engineering work. WON 18 refers to the Weekly Operating Notice Week 18. IT13 is the item number within the WON.
     
  3. jon0844

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    Ah yes, that makes sense.
     
  4. fermit

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    From January when HU closed.

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  5. Surreytraveller

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    Usually a unit purposefully left in a station for a driver to take to sidings to save them having to walk
     
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    I'll leave this here (03:00 hrs)
     

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    Car in Car Park, some distance from depot, or vice versa :)
     
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    I remember when 507002 derailed in Kirkdale TMD a few years ago on Boxing day-Traksy showed OOPS.:D
     
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    Seen from an employee moved from a panel to a ROC
    "-I-- MISS -MY- -PAN EL-- BOX-
    -I-- WANT -TO- -GO- HOME"
     
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    Following high winds I have seen SHED and ROOF as well as TREE. Was around Stourbridge IIRC.
     
  11. spark001uk

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    I've also seen -EO- for electricity off.

    Actually maybe we could start an alphabetical "glossary" for these terms and add their alternatives as we come across them?
     
  12. E_Reeves

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    I wouldn't mind doing that, but would anybody find it useful?
     
  13. spark001uk

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    OK yes, that would be good. I guess it would be useful, if only to satisfy curiosity when seeing something on a diagram.
    Another one I find useful for identifying train types is the 8-digit TSC (Train Service Code). The scot-rail community wiki has a list which I use sometimes, but there's a few codes that I haven't found (maybe unique to England, not sure?)
     
  14. E_Reeves

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    List of common train describer messages:

    -EO-
    - Electric Off/Engineer's Occupation

    -T3-
    - Possession of line

    1Z99
    - Rescue train(usually locomotive)

    BLKD
    - Line blocked

    BLOC
    - Line blocked

    BLOK -
    Line blocked

    BRUK
    - Failed train

    BTET
    - Blocked to electric traction

    BUST
    - Failed train

    CL57
    - Class 57

    DMIC
    - Failed train

    DMU-
    - DMU in berth

    DVT-
    - Loco hauled set

    ELEC
    - Electric loco

    FAIL
    - Failed train

    GONE
    - Line out of use

    LBLK
    - Line blocked

    LECY
    - Electric loco

    NAKA
    - Failed train

    NDSS
    - North end of down station siding

    NDVR - No driver

    NO*R
    - No run-round

    NOGO
    - Line blocked

    OOU-
    - Line out of use

    POSS
    - Possession of line

    RUNR
    - Run-round

    RUST
    - Line out of use

    SHUT
    - Line blocked

    SPRE
    - Spare

    STBL
    - Stabled

    TBRD
    - Thunderbird

    TMPR
    - Tamper

    TPEX
    - Transpennine Express

    UNIT
    - Unit in berth

    WAGS
    - Wagons in berth

    WASH
    - Train being washed

    WGNS
    - Wagons in berth
     
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  15. E_Reeves

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    How's that looking? Please tell me if I've made any mistakes and anything I've missed off :lol:
     
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    NDVR - No Driver
     
  17. E_Reeves

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    Thanks :)
     
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    We use EO for “engineers occupation” for T3 possessions either by personal choice or when you have two T3 possessions back to back to distinguish the possessions from each other and BTET “block to electric traction” for when the traction current is off.
     
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    NODC is used at Fawkham Junction
     
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    TRAM
    -PO-
    LINE
     
  21. GW43125

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    xCAR or xxCR seen quite often at Waterloo when the job's up the spout so they're reminding themselves how long a train is.
     
  22. E_Reeves

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    As in no DC current?
     
  23. ComUtoR

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    How many of these messages are official or are they local jargon ?
     
  24. spark001uk

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    Not sure, but I think it would be prudent to include them all, so that if we come across any 'local jargon' we also know what it refers to?
     
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    FAIL - Failed train (just saw in Edinburgh, next to 1EMU)
     
  26. GusB

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    I'm intrigued by this one:

    Where does NAKA come from?
     
  27. spark001uk

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    I saw STLB once on a diagram, and initially thought it was a typo of STBL, but then I saw it again somewhere else. Anyone know it?
     
  28. ComUtoR

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    I think there should be a separate list for official and non official. -EO- being a prime example of where there can be confusion.
     
  29. 318266

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    N0G0 - same as NOGO, in Pelaw.
     
  30. spark001uk

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    You have a point, although I'm slightly concerned that one signaller could possibly be confused by another!
     

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