Transport for Wales 769's

[59CosG95]

There is a picture on the TFW Livery thread of one vehicle of a 769 poking out of the shed at Canton in TFW Livery. Suggest that anything regarding the livery is kept to that thread and no discussion on the livery continued here

Said 769 is 008.

 

[MatthewRead]

So hopefully they will enter service soon.

 

[PHILIPE]

So hopefully they will enter service soon.

Crew training first

 

[MatthewRead]

Crew training first

Planning to go to South Wales in September what are my chances of seeing one?

 

[PHILIPE]

Planning to go to South Wales in September what are my chances of seeing one?

I still wouldn't feel like trying to answer that one yet.

 

[tomwills98]

Planning to go to South Wales in September what are my chances of seeing one?

If you get a train coming in from the west on the mainline from Cardiff, you may see one poking out of a shed.

 

[PaulHarding150]

As reported elsewhere driver training has now started on these. Any guesses on when the remaining seven units will be delivered, I'm guessing there'll need to be quite a bit of internal referb done to each of them which won't be quick.


And on a separate no having been on packed Class 37 to Rhymney last week, any idea what the total seating and standing capacity of these is?

 

[Cardiff123]

As reported elsewhere driver training has now started on these. Any guesses on when the remaining seven units will be delivered, I'm guessing there'll need to be quite a bit of internal referb done to each of them which won't be quick.


And on a separate no having been on packed Class 37 to Rhymney last week, any idea what the total seating and standing capacity of these is?

Static driver training though, 769s still haven't left Canton depot on diesel under their own power have they?

 

[sd0733]

Passing Canton yesterday where 769008 (3 coaches) and 769002 (full unit) were visible. 769002 has some big straps over the Pantograph right down the body side securing it down while 008 has had it removed completely.
008 also looks like its had all its seat cushions removed but the seats are still there.

 

[PaulHarding150]

TfW have tweeted that they expect them to enter service in November I know they were expected to have entered sevice a year plus ago, but for them to tweet it yesterday (3rd Sept) they must be confident of it happening.

https://twitter.com/tfwrail/status/1168826147263655936

 

[krus_aragon]

TfW have tweeted that they expect them to enter service in November I know they were expected to have entered sevice a year plus ago, but for them to tweet it yesterday (3rd Sept) they must be confident of it happening.

https://twitter.com/tfwrail/status/1168826147263655936

Either they're confident, or no revised schedule has been given to the Twitter staff.

 

[PHILIPE]

Either they're confident, or no revised schedule has been given to the Twitter staff.

I think TFW are quite aware of what is going on and what they are saying in relation to timescales could well be correct. What discussion that takes place behind the scenes between the ROSCO and the TOC is not in the public domain so there is a lot that we on the outside don't know. Time will tell.

 

[samuelmorris]

Either they're confident, or no revised schedule has been given to the Twitter staff.

I expect the latter. As far as I know, no mainline testing has taken place yet, so dynamic training couldn't take place until that has started and then successfully concluded. Two months doesn't seem reasonable given the almost three years it's taken to get this far.

 

[Bob Price]

Picture appeared on my Twitter feed today of one of the Northern ones under test. Obviously things are moving with the project and lessons learned may be transferred to Wales
https://twitter.com/Auriga_ZA/status/1169036352949772290?s=09

 

[PHILIPE]

Picture appeared on my Twitter feed today of one of the Northern ones under test. Obviously things are moving with the project and lessons learned may be transferred to Wales
https://twitter.com/Auriga_ZA/status/1169036352949772290?s=09

Had to be rescued according to this thread:-

https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...m-319s-initially-for-northern.138660/page-130

I have given up reading it due to the thread becoming loaded with technical jargon which I admit to being unable to understand.

 

[samuelmorris]

I realise it's basically pure chance and anything can happen at the "early" stages of testing, but it seems only fitting that this is the first class I've seen for a while where one of the first observed test runs on the mainline ended in failure and the unit having to be rescued. The cause may be totally unrelated to the reasons for the huge delay to the 769s' introduction into service, but it does seem rather symbolic doesn't it...

 

[Rhydgaled]

Picture appeared on my Twitter feed today of one of the Northern ones under test. Obviously things are moving with the project and lessons learned may be transferred to Wales
https://twitter.com/Auriga_ZA/status/1169036352949772290?s=09

Wow, a 769 moves on Network Rail metals! Hope it won't be long before the Welsh ones get going or road buses might end up replacing rail buses if the government doesn't grant a temporary PRM exemption for the Pacers.

 

[Chris217]

Seen both TfW 769s today at the rear of the front shed at Cardiff Canton.
Noticed 2 cars in TfW livery which looked like was being shunted by an 08 !

 

[anamyd]

Seen both TfW 769s today at the rear of the front shed at Cardiff Canton.
Noticed 2 cars in TfW livery which looked like was being shunted by an 08 !

Half a 769 being shunted by an 08...?

 

[Chris217]

Half a 769 being shunted by an 08...?

That's what it looked like as I was passing.

 

[anamyd]

That's what it looked like as I was passing.

not the first time it's happened I don't think. I wonder why it's done!

 

[krus_aragon]

not the first time it's happened I don't think. I wonder why it's done!

Training fitters?

 

[Mrs. Fortescue]

This morning, both ends of 008 together and painted.

The middle cars the other side of the shed, both painted up.

002 is still in one piece, unpainted and with the pantograph secured down with green rope/cabling.

 

[anamyd]

This morning, both ends of 008 together and painted.

The middle cars the other side of the shed, both painted up.

002 is still in one piece, unpainted and with the pantograph secured down with green rope/cabling.

thanks for that

 

[PHILIPE]

There was another move scheduled to run from Brush to Canton today:-

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K04013/2019/10/02/advanced

But cancelled

 

[anamyd]

There was another move scheduled to run from Brush to Canton today:-

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K04013/2019/10/02/advanced

But cancelled

Thanks for the info though

 

[Cardiff123]

There was another move scheduled to run from Brush to Canton today:-

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K04013/2019/10/02/advanced

But cancelled

Is it a surprise it was cancelled? The word 'cancelled' sums up the whole 769 farce.

 

[anthony263]

Took at least 2 or 3 attempts to deliver 769002

 

[Phil from Mon]

The delays are being acknowledged and apologised for by TFW today. They are sourcing more 153s to cover from Porterbrook, but it is unclear where they are coming from. Press release is at https://news.tfwrail.wales/news/extra-capacity-and-improved-trains-for-rail-passengers-in-wales, quoted in full in the PRM deadline thread.

 

[507021]

The delays are being acknowledged and apologised for by TFW today. They are sourcing more 153s to cover from Porterbrook, but it is unclear where they are coming from. Press release is at https://news.tfwrail.wales/news/extra-capacity-and-improved-trains-for-rail-passengers-in-wales, quoted in full in the PRM deadline thread.

Greater Anglia.