theblackwatch
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Not for about a month now
Thanks, I couldn't remember seeing reports anywhere.
Not for about a month now
Depends how long Pacers can reliably carry on for though. Unless more spare 142s from Northern can be taken on as spares/parts donors, the supply of spares & parts for Pacers will run out eventuallyIt's hard to test and train drivers when u need to stay two meters apart and with the lack of demand and service it may be easier to keep them parked up for now
That's agreed but if all stock being used less then they will have longer and if they can't train crew then they can't use the train end ofDepends how long Pacers can reliably carry on for though. Unless more spare 142s from Northern can be taken on as spares/parts donors, the supply of spares & parts for Pacers will run out eventually
It's worth pointing out that removing the ac equipment from the 769s would reduce their adhesive weight, - probably reducing their perfomance more than adding gensets and fueltanks over the un-driven axles.it's worth remembering, that the Electrostars were built at turn of the century, not this day and age, and they would have had 5-10 years development beforehand, and they would need to design things in the most reliable way when it comes to product selection circa 1993/5. Also, by and large unit suspension is rubber chevrons(primary) and the air bag type(secondary), and if there isn't the weight on the coach to counteract gravity and absorb any resonance you will start having issues with the coach leaving it's kinetic envelope, and that you can only solve with additional weight. something which I believe siemens dealt with by more evenly distributing equipment along the train, whereas Bombardier kept their modular design which had the bonus of ease of reformation in future and conversion to AC. Swings and roundabouts at the end of the day, and whilst it probably would be quite possible for the 769 vehicle profile to be put into modern computer modelling to look at removing the redundant AC equipment to save weight, I doubt the ROSCO would have any inclination to do so as it would limit the future use of the units should there be difficulty to re-instate all the AC equipment (take for example the removal of the DC equipment from the 365's leaving them as AC only units now due to loss of knowledge/equipment)
Unbelieveable. Diesel trains could easily be pathed through considerably less congested routes due to covid service reductions.Another one is in the process of being delivered. I just saw it in the A48 at Llanederyn. On its way to Canton by road
Unbelieveable. Diesel trains could easily be pathed through considerably less congested routes due to covid service reductions.
There has to be something radically wrong with the class 769 "paperwork", or Porterbrook and Wabtec have shares in heavy haulage.
Is that all of the first group delivered now?;37800 and 37884 have run from Leicester to Canton today to move the newly assembled (believed to be 007) across the road from the Brickworks Siding (road access site) to Pullmans
Is that all of the first group delivered now?;
Is that all of the first group delivered now?;
The same route the first few examples were delivered along. We have been told they are effectively a diesel electric 4 car class 150, so If they can be diesel hauled on their own wheels it wouldnt be a huge stretch of the imagination for them to "self power" using their own diesels surely ? I notice the TfW 769s don't have pantographs, so no loading gauge issues there.Which routes do you suggest then and would the routes be cleared for their transit ?
But if you can't train staff who sign the route to drive them, and can't sign drivers off on the route who can drive them, what do you suggest?The same route the first few examples were delivered along. We have been told they are effectively a diesel electric 4 car class 150, so If they can be diesel hauled on their own wheels it wouldnt be a huge stretch of the imagination for them to "self power" using their own diesels surely ? I notice the TfW 769s don't have pantographs, so no loading gauge issues there.
Looking at RTT it looks as if something used the morning and afternoon paths today. Anyone know anything?
That explains the road transfer. All a bit of a farce. It's quite a while since I filmed the first one arriving.No runs today nor anyrtime soon due to covid and the union i believe they have to be brought down by road now the network rail measurement train has picked up a foul on the route down so untill that is investigated road is the only option
Something used the paths today. Anyone know what?No runs today nor anyrtime soon due to covid and the union.
Something used the paths today. Anyone know what?
AIUI ROG is the contractor for getting the 769s certified to run on NR, and I believe it was ROG who were working the Crewe-Carnforth runs to get the Northern units ready to hand over to Northern. Therefore, as ROG are delivering the TfW units to Canton (apart from those on low loaders) perhaps the ROG drivers working on the 37s and 47s hauling the 769s are also actually trained on 769s ?But if you can't train staff who sign the route to drive them, and can't sign drivers off on the route who can drive them, what do you suggest?
Notice with the timetable changes today the testing paths have been taken out. Logical if there is no testing.