Travelling routes historically

Discussion in 'Railway History & Nostalgia' started by ReeceEmmitt, 27 Apr 2015.

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  1. ReeceEmmitt

    ReeceEmmitt Member

    5 Oct 2014
    I'm doing some research for a pet project of mine and I wondered if anyone here had any pointers.

    Say it's 1939 and I've just got the transatlantic liner to Liverpool from NY. I want to get to Cardiff. What is the quickest/easiest way? Is there a website or anything like that that would have this sort of information?

    Thanks in advance
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  3. ilkestonian

    ilkestonian Member

    6 Dec 2009
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    One way would be to get hold of a Bradshaws for that era.
  4. Taunton

    Taunton Established Member

    1 Aug 2013
    Ferry from the landing stage across to Birkenhead Woodside, then GWR through carriage via Chester, Shrewsbury, Hereford.
  5. 30907

    30907 Established Member

    30 Sep 2012
    A 1938 edition was reprinted many years ago and may be available in public libraries. Or someone else may have one more easily accessible than mine! If not PM me.
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    The obvious route but the LMS may have had something too from Lime St.
  6. Bevan Price

    Bevan Price Established Member

    22 Apr 2010
    July 1938 Bradshaw reprint shows a 09:43 (SX) Birkenhead Woodside to Cardiff (arrive 13:51), attached (presumably at Shrewsbury) to a service from Manchester (London Road). Ferry connection from Liverpoo (Landing Stage) was at 09:30. On Saturdays, you had to change at Shrewsbury, or wait for a 10:30 Birkenhead to Cardiff (arr. 15:30) & Plymouth.

    There was also a 10:20 (SO) Liverpool (Lime St.) to Swansea & Paignton, which reached Cardiff at 15:03.

    At that time, and until the late 1960s, most trains from the Liverpool / Manchester area to South Wales & West Country were routed via Shrewsbury & Hereford rather than via Birmingham.

    One alternative is that "Ocean Liner Expresses" ran to/from Liverpool Riverside connecting with the major liners; these were mainly from/to London, and do not appear in public timetables, so I don't know where they called between Euston & Liverpool - you would need the locate the 1930s special traffic notices (or equivalent) for more details.
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