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Brian Aylott said:
What makes you think its Crewe?
Haven't been any DMUs (or EMUs or LHCS or Locos) for years at the works
Bodywork repairs are normally now done at Wolverton
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Am I right in thinking that Bombardiers Crewe facility isn't even rail connected anymore, with the connection taken out several years ago? Crewe In recent years has only been carryioumg out Bogie overhauls, with Litchurch Lane and Ilford carrying out stock refurbishment and maintenance.
 
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Many thanks for the information on the sad demise of Crewe Works. I only suggested Crewe because I'd read some years a go that it was at the time carrying out body repairs.

I'm old enough to remember Crewe Works open days in the 1970's and what a place it was then!
 
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Last i heard 168325 has been reassembled and is currently having a coat of paint on the front end. It should also return with a couple of interior tweaks as well. 168113 on the other hand was inspected an damage was found on the anti-missile plate which will require a more in depth repair.
 
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As a matter of interest who pays for fixing the units? Its presumably the TOC but would it be Network Rail? I am merely pondering it because as I understand it the Delay Repay etc from a tree being on the line is ultimately in theory Network Rails ability as its there line and they should have cut down all the trees before they fell down. On that basis it would seem fixing the train should be their bill. However if I was driving my car and hit a fallen tree it would only be the tree owners liability if I could prove they were negligent and should have done something about the tree before it came down.

I guess a related question is are the trains insured against damage?
 
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Chrisgr31 said:
As a matter of interest who pays for fixing the units? Its presumably the TOC but would it be Network Rail? I am merely pondering it because as I understand it the Delay Repay etc from a tree being on the line is ultimately in theory Network Rails ability as its there line and they should have cut down all the trees before they fell down. On that basis it would seem fixing the train should be their bill. However if I was driving my car and hit a fallen tree it would only be the tree owners liability if I could prove they were negligent and should have done something about the tree before it came down.

I guess a related question is are the trains insured against damage?
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I believe and i will have a look tomorrow to confirm that the tree was outside of the boundary fence.
 
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Chrisgr31 said:
As a matter of interest who pays for fixing the units? Its presumably the TOC but would it be Network Rail? I am merely pondering it because as I understand it the Delay Repay etc from a tree being on the line is ultimately in theory Network Rails ability as its there line and they should have cut down all the trees before they fell down. On that basis it would seem fixing the train should be their bill. However if I was driving my car and hit a fallen tree it would only be the tree owners liability if I could prove they were negligent and should have done something about the tree before it came down.

I guess a related question is are the trains insured against damage?
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It all comes back to NR, even when the tree is outside the fence.
 
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Here are the latest pictures we have of 168113.

These pictures are not mine.

Anti Missile panel removed


New Cab Shell

 
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Peter Sarf said:
What is all that brown flaky looking stuff I see on parts of the front frames ?.
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Possibly either rust or glue.

In a way, I'm a little surprised they didn't take the chance to replace the light clusters with the better looking later and more simpler version, rather than sticking to the original 3 light versions that have a tendency of 'fogging' up. Possibly a spare mould lingering in Derby then. At least it's slowly on the way back!

I wonder though how long the repairs would have taken if the front was made of Alu like Siemens / TPEs 185s than Bombardiers Fiberglass and metal framework.

As a side note, hehe, anyone spot the ex Thameslink moquette covering the coupling bar.
 
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fgwrich said:
In a way, I'm a little surprised they didn't take the chance to replace the light clusters with the better looking later and more simpler version, rather than sticking to the original 3 light versions that have a tendency of 'fogging' up. Possibly a spare mould lingering in Derby then. At least it's slowly on the way back...
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Perhaps they want it to match the other end of the unit? The area of grey primer roun the lights suggests it has been modified to its current condition?
 
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Not just to match the other end, but to match the rest of the fleet?
 
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fgwrich said:
Possibly either rust or glue.

In a way, I'm a little surprised they didn't take the chance to replace the light clusters with the better looking later and more simpler version, rather than sticking to the original 3 light versions that have a tendency of 'fogging' up. Possibly a spare mould lingering in Derby then. At least it's slowly on the way back!

I wonder though how long the repairs would have taken if the front was made of Alu like Siemens / TPEs 185s than Bombardiers Fiberglass and metal framework.

As a side note, hehe, anyone spot the ex Thameslink moquette covering the coupling bar.
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Noticed that ex Thameslink moquette straight away...!!!
 
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Not just to match the other end, but to match the rest of the fleet?
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Well, the other members of the 168/1 (and 168/3) sub-fleet. The 168/0s and 168/2s both have different designs of cab end - the 168/2s being fitted with the later design two piece headlight clusters.
 
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Excellent stuff, thanks! Sorry for the late reply - it only just occurred to me to look!
 
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