Trivia: Consecutive LU stations used as termini

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  1. Halsebee

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    On the Northern Line, Mill Hill East, Finchley Central and East Finchley are consecutive stops, all of which act as a terminus for trains daily ( well during Mon-Fri anyway). Is there anywhere else on the tube network with three (or more)consecutive termini.
    Also some trains run Finchley Central - East Finchley only, so a one stop working. Same for Finchley Central- Mill Hill East. Where else are there regular one stop only journeys? Chesham- Chalont I presume is one.
     
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  3. MikeWh

    MikeWh Established Member Senior Fares Advisor

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    Chesham trains all run through to London now, AFAIK. The obvious example is Waterloo to Bank.
     
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    Chalford & Latimer cannot be a terminus any more, the S8s are too long for the bay platform (hence why half length A stock sets were used)
     
  5. Mojo

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    Hatton Cross, Heathrow Terminal 1,2,3 and Heathrow Terminal 5 all handle reserving trains.

    On the District line either West Kensington or Olympia, then Earls Court and High Street Kensington.
     
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  6. bionic

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    Waterloo, Lambeth North and Elephant & Castle are all places where Bakerloo trains can terminate. I don't think there are any booked Lambeth reversers though, just in times of disruption.

    Moorgate, Liverpool Street, Aldgate East and Whitechapel all have reversing facilities on the H&C, while you could carry on from Liverpool Street round the Circle to include Aldgate and Tower Hill.

    Further west on the Circle there's South Kensington, Gloucester Road and High Street Kensington in a row. But you can beat that going along the District with South Ken, Gloucester Road, Earl's Court and West Ken (although Gloucester Road's reversing facilities are only for Circle line trains so the purists may not allow it).

    It's possible they've ripped some of these crossovers up in the last few years. I'm not fully up to date with the SSR upgrade works.
     
  7. bionic

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    Acton Town, Ealing Common and Ealing Broadway spring to mind too.
     
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    I had a look at the timetable before making my post earlier. I don’t think any trains are timetabled to terminate at Ealing Common, District line trains into the depot seem to run empty from Ealing Bdy.
     
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    As the Piccadilly Line has been known to go to Ealing Broadway can we add Barons Court and Hammersmith to that as well? Obviously needs to non-stop at Turnham Green (or Ravenscourt Park & Stamford Brook for that matter). Yep, i'm taking a few liberties there but its a possible route.
     
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    Yeah to be honest I was clutching at straws with most of these, listing places with turn back/terminating facilities rather than places trains are actually booked to terminate on a daily basis!

    Waterloo has no pointwork whatsoever but Bakerloo trains terminate here to run empty into London Road. There are no semi-automatic signals in the station area (although there are X signals for the floodgates). The pointwork used to get into the depot is the Lambeth North stuff. I wonder is there any other regularly used terminating station on the LU network with no pointwork or semi-automatic signalling immediately in the vicinity of the station?
     
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    Ruislip? Although the station starter is an X signal for the start of the MU signals for Ruislip IMR siding it is technically an automatic signal. Although not sure it would class as regular use, maybe someone could check the WTT, I don’t know if it gets a move by the Met line, the daily Piccadilly line train that uses it runs empty from South Harrow so doesn’t really terminate at Ruislip, although it used to have regular booked Piccadilly line reversers in the morning peak, but about five years or so ago these were extended to Uxbridge.

    Osterley again, nothing booked to terminate there (for some reason the stablers run empty from the Airport), but it is possible to terminate and then go into the depot from the west end.
     
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    DLR trains from Beckton terminate at Canning Town, and from Stratford at Canary Wharf, which makes Stratford-West Ham-Canning Town-North Greenwich-Canary Wharf a quintuple.

    Does the Overground ever terminate at Canada Water? We might have a sextuple!
     
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    Mansion House and Tower Hill used to have regular terminators on the District, from the west. If you included the Circle, then you could add Aldgate, albeit from a different direction!
     
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    Cannon Street and Monument weren't terminating stations though!
     
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    West Ham and Stratford on the Jubilee?
     
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    True - brain needs refreshing, obviously!
     
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    Yes, this is true, but given that most depots you can get in from both ends, this isn’t particularly remarkable. In fact, are any depots that are not at the end of the line (Upminster & Morden) accessible from only one end aside from Northumberland Park and Stonebridge Park which sits off Network Rail infrastructure? [Highgate and White City are technically sidings and not depots].
     
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    Hammersmith, until very recently although now deemed as sidings.
     
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    That was one reason I didn’t mention it, although another reason is that trains going into it can terminate at Goldhawk Rd and then go into a road there with no platform adjacent before working into the sidings.
     
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    I’d consider it to be “at the end of the line” in the same way as Upminster etc. and thus discounted. 24rd is numbered and signalled (well, was signalled, obviously it’s all CBTC now) in line with the rest of the station area. You can’t go to/from the sidings without circulating via the platforms (or from 24rd to the platforms without going via the sidings - famously I once suggested to someone who asked if the latter was possible without going via the sidings that it was... by running via Edgware Road. )
     
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    I kind of meant “beyond” the end of the line like Morden and Upminster in that trains going into the depot continue on beyond the station rather than say like Cockfosters where trains go out the way they came in, unless using the Oakwood end.
     
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    There is one on a Sunday night which runs Chesham terminating at Chalfont then Rusty rail move north empty to Amersham.
     
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    This terminates in through/southbound platform number 2, and uses the wrong road starter to return to Amersham.

    There is no access to/from the bay road via the Main line.

    Fair comment, in that case I agree.
     
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    Golders Green is very much single ended, albeit with a shunt neck so trains can conveniently enter from both the north and south. In fact, not only is GG single ended but all trains entering and leaving have to pass over a single section of track.
     

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