Trivia: Oldest car design still in production

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With cars, is the Punto design from 2006 still in production?

Trabants as most know it ran from the early-mid 60s until the start of the 90s with only minor changes. Ladas likewise, though I think these received more comprehensive updates during their production run. Plus the Lada was a FIAT design from even earlier.
 
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With cars, is the Punto design from 2006 still in production?

Trabants as most know it ran from the early-mid 60s until the start of the 90s with only minor changes. Ladas likewise, though I think these received more comprehensive updates during their production run. Plus the Lada was a FIAT design from even earlier.
The original Mini was in production for 41 years (1959 to 2000).
 

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The Fiat 124 and Lada Riva was constructed from 1966 until 2012, a period of 46 years.
 

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In respect of cars, I think the Renault 4 deserves a mention.

Not as long lived as the Beetle, Mini or 2CV, but over eight million cars built over 33 years is an outstanding production run.
 

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And the original Volkswagen Beetle from 1938 to 2003; around 65 years.
However, I would bet that virtually nothing from a 1938 Beetle (or Kdf-wagen) would fit on a 2003 Beetle, whereas quite a bit from a 1959 Mini would fit on a 2000 one.
 

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Do we get to include the Land Rover Series and Defender as continuations of the same design?

The Series Land Rovers were in production from 1948 - 1985. The Defender was in production from 1983 - 2016. And the first Defender was a very close development of the last Series III. So I propose Series Land Rover/Defender 1948 - 2016.
 

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However, I would bet that virtually nothing from a 1938 Beetle (or Kdf-wagen) would fit on a 2003 Beetle, whereas quite a bit from a 1959 Mini would fit on a 2000 one.

I think that’s quite an interesting point. Having worked on various Beetles that were built across a time gap of 20 or so years, I’d agree that there weren’t many interchangeable parts between the older ones and the newer ones despite them looking very similar. 1303 with a curved windscreen, plastic dash and coil springs at the front anyone?
 

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However, I would bet that virtually nothing from a 1938 Beetle (or Kdf-wagen) would fit on a 2003 Beetle, whereas quite a bit from a 1959 Mini would fit on a 2000 one.
Not sure about the Mini either. Although they were basically the same, quite a lot changed over the years - wheel size, lights, radiator grille, interior fittings including dashboard layout, original ones had sliding rather than winding windows, early ones had 800cc engines or thereabouts, final ones all had 1.3 litre etc etc...
 

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Not a car, but a motorcycle.

The Honda Super Cub has been in continuous production since 1958, with over 100 million produced.
 

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Caterham 7 and Morgan Plus 4 both trace back to the 50s.
 

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The VW campervan with a rear engine started just at the end of WW2 iirc so 1946. This (T2 iirc) was still in production in Brazil into this century. And a lot have survived.
 

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The Morris Oxford series III of 1956 continued being made in India as Hindustan Ambassador until 2014, so same basic vehicle for 58 years
 

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The Peugeot 405 (launched in 1987) is still in production in Azerbaijan. The Pininfarina design obviously still 'takes their breath away'...

Nigerian production of the Peugeot 504 (1968) ceased in 2006.

The Iranian made Paykan saloon and pick up, originally derived from the 1966 Hillman Hunter/Rootes Arrow saloon ('66-'79). Paykan saloon production ceased in 2005, pick ups in 2015.

The Mk1 VW Golf (1974) was still assembled in South Africa as recently as 2009, sold as the low-cost Citi Golf.

VW MK2 Passat (1981) was made in China between 1983-2012 as the VW Santana.

The Leyland Sherpa van (1974) continued in production until 2006 with various minor facelifts/name changes along the way, eventually becoming the LDV Pilot.
 
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The original Lada Niva has been in production since 1977, and is still going strong today, having been rebranded the Niva Legend earlier this year.


The second generation Ford Transit was first produced in 1986 and continued up until 2003, but was reintroduced in the Chinese market as the snappily titled Ford Transit VJX6541DK-M where it continued until 2017, when it was given a nose job and rebranded as the JMC Teshun, which is still being produced and is quite clearly the same from the front wings back.


The FX4 taxi was first produced in 1958 and remained in production until 1997, with the body managing to stay almost unchanged despite having been through 3 different manufacturers and multiple drivetrain updates, with it finally being replaced by the TX1 some 30 years after it was originally intended to be replaced.
Incidentally, while the TX1 has a drastically improved body and interior, the chassis and drivetrain are identical to the last of the FX4s (the Nissan Fairway).
 

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The Morgan +4 had a pretty long production life with a few breaks.
1950-1969, 1985-2000 and 2005-2020. In 2020 they switched from wood to aluminium. Altogether thats 49 of the last 70 years.

The Morgan four seater was produced from 1937 to 2016 and was unchanged from the start until 1990's when the rear passenger seat was lowered to the same height as the drivers seat and in 2006 they made the doors wider.
The 4/4 was produced from 1936-2019 until it was discontinued due to engine emissions apart from a break of 1940-45 and 1951-1955.
 

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Thinking about currently available mainstream cars (rather than the Morgan and Caterham previously mentioned), the VW Sharan/Ford Galaxy have been around since 1995. According to Wikipedia the last (and only) significant revision was in 2010. In modern car terms that is a pretty impressive run. It looks like the Sharan is no longer being manufactured with cars only available from stock, but the Galaxy is still on Ford's configurator page.
 

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Another one for a long production run was the Porsche 911.
Air-cooled from 1965 to 1996 then water-cooled.
 

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Thinking about currently available mainstream cars (rather than the Morgan and Caterham previously mentioned), the VW Sharan/Ford Galaxy have been around since 1995. According to Wikipedia the last (and only) significant revision was in 2010. In modern car terms that is a pretty impressive run. It looks like the Sharan is no longer being manufactured with cars only available from stock, but the Galaxy is still on Ford's configurator page.

The Galaxy was completely modernised in 2006. The VW Sharan and Seat Alhambra had to wait until 2011.
 

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The Galaxy was completely modernised in 2006. The VW Sharan and Seat Alhambra had to wait until 2011.
So is the Galaxy pretty much a 15 year old car now, with probably an updated dashboard along the way? If so, that's getting on a bit, but also shows the strength of the design.
 

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The Toyota Land Cruiser J70 has been in production since 1984, outlasting the J100 and more recent J200 versions. It'll see in the brand new J300 as well and shows no signs of exiting production.

Staying with Toyota, the 1st generation Century was in production from 1967 to 1997.
 

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So is the Galaxy pretty much a 15 year old car now, with probably an updated dashboard along the way? If so, that's getting on a bit, but also shows the strength of the design.
No, it got replaced with an all new car, it just looks like a facelift because Ford still use the "Kinetic" design language.
 

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No, it got replaced with an all new car, it just looks like a facelift because Ford still use the "Kinetic" design language.
Ah, I wasn't aware of the 2015 3rd generation Galaxy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Galaxy#Third_generation_(CD390;_2015)
Nevertheless, the Sharan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Sharan#Second_generation_(Typ_7N;_2010) looks like it only got two generations plus a facelift.

Apologies for my somewhat pointless contribution to the thread - I looked up the VW wiki and assumed the Galaxy/Sharan/Alhambra continued being close siblings throughout; but given that Ford totally revamped in 2015 while VW only facelifted, it seems I was wrong. Should have Googled more thoroughly before posting:oops:
 

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