Trivia: Short distance Advance fares

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  1. M28361M

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    While looking up train times between Liverpool Lime Street and Liverpool South Parkway the other day, I noticed that Northern offer an Advance fare for this journey for £1.50 single.

    I thought this was unusual, to offer an Advance ticket on such a short journey (I think it's about five miles) but I'm now curious: does anyone know of any other examples of similar short distances where an Advance fare is available?
     
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  3. yorkie

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    At approx 5 1/2 miles I doubt there will be many similarly short examples.
     
  4. route101

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    Can these Northern ones be bought right up to departure ?
     
  5. Saperstein

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    How about High Street Glasgow (HST) to Argyle Street (AGA)?

    http://www.brfares.com/#!fares?orig=HST&dest=AGS

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    I see no normal Advance fares there; only group tickets which have to be bought in advance.
     
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    Not overly a short distance but today I turned up at Newton-Le-Willows to travel to Chester (one-way) at 14:05.
    Went to the ticket machine and was offered an Anytime Single at £8.50 for the Transport for Wales 14:17 service or a £4:50 Advance on the 14:26 Northern.
     
  8. Merseysider

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    East Didsbury to Manchester Piccadilly is 5.3 miles and has Advance fares available thanks to Northern.

    Your booked train might even turn up.
     
  9. route101

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    Advance on the ticket machine?
     
  10. Joe Paxton

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    Did you take Northern up on their offer to get you there 9 minutes later in return for a 47% saving on your fare?
     
  11. joke2711

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    Yes it was offered on the ticket machine and I certainly did ...
     
  12. Haywain

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    Its not really anything new - for some of us, anyway.
     
  13. M28361M

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    Thinking about it, these short-distance Advance fares do make some sense if they are available on the day. If I turned up at the station and a £1.50 fare was available for the train I was going to get anyway, I would probably go for it rather than paying the walk-up fare. A couple of quid saved for me, and presumably a better slice of revenue for Northern.
     
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    Sorry... I misread the page!

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  15. route101

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    Yes , if you knew you were getting on that service
     
  16. route101

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    I think XC have advance between Edinburgh and Glasgow
     
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    I have no personal additions to this thread, but an observation that maybe we could see this more commonly going forward as a way to spread the load at peak times. If the information becomes available that some trains will be less busy, can short-notice advances be made available for those specific trains? I'm thinking more services out of terminals, that perhaps may be less busy en route (for example a service Kings Cross to Edinburgh may be less loaded between say York and Durham)
     
  18. yorkie

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    An excellent suggestion Sir with just two minor flaws:
    1. there are no XC Advance fares between Edinburgh and Glasgow and
    2. at 57.24 miles (over ten times the example in the OP) it's not really a short distance
    ;)
     
  19. Kite159

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    Most likely the advances are set at a level which makes it worthwhile for Northern to offer due to getting more money from that £1.50 advance than from what they would get from an any-permitted ticket.

    I.e. last month or so I got a Northern advance for Preston to Wigan for £2.20 on a Sunday morning, saved me some money over the open fare.
     
  20. route101

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    I thought it may of not .
     

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