Trivia: Stations not called at by managing TOC

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  1. dcd

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    Are there any other stations than Mottisfont & Dunbridge and Dean where they are owned by one TOC (First Great Western) and only served by another TOC (South West Trains).
     
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    Hinckley's like that. EMT operated, XC served.
     
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    Lockerbie?

    Although I'll point out that they aren't 'owned' by the TOC, they are managed. If I hadn't done that, you can bet your life someone else would!
     
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    Loads. Burton-on-Trent, Willington (managed EMT, Served XC) Water Orton (Managed LM, served XC), Lockerbie (managed Scotrail, served TPE/VT), Any network Rail station (at a push!)
     
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    East Midlands Trains manage stations at which they do not operate services. These stations are all only served by CrossCountry. They are Hinckley, Narborough, South Wigston, Willington and Burton-on-Trent.
     
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    A fairly regular question this.

    XC in the Midlands is an easy one to answer, originally the core long distance XC (without the former Central Trains services) didn't call anywhere that didn't also have a local TOC calling as well. With the additional routes being of a slightly different nature they suddenly became the sole callers at randomly located and relatively minor stations. The small number of stations does not justify XC having a property management set up, and there wouldn't be sufficient critical mass to employ dedicated station staff and run the necessary training and management. So the 2007 franchise explicitly ruled out XC taking over these few stations.

    The two stations mentioned that SWT now make all the calls at (Dean and Mottisfont) were supposed to be transferring to SWT - it was covered in the 2012 FGW franchise ITT which was subsequently abandoned, and it would appear that DfT have forgotten about it.

    There are many edge cases around the country where the TOC with the most services doesn't necessarily run the stations, take Swanwick near me as an example, where Southern make twice as many calls as SWT, but it's well off SN's normal patch, so I doubt anyone would ever consider it needed changing. I suppose you could say the same about Romsey - it's out of FGW's main area, and SWT make more calls there as well...
     
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    Chester-Le-Street could be added to the managed by a TOC which doesn't have the most services.

    Managed by Northern and is only served by a small handful of Northern services, the majority of services are from TPE with a token XC service.
     
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    Any Network rail station... apart from those called at by SWT (ie Waterloo and Reading)
     
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    And when did Wessex Trains cease as a TOC?
     
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    He does say above the table that it doesn't differentiate current and historic.
     
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