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Trivia: Stock which there are no surviving examples

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Not seen a thread on this yet but what stock is there that there is no surviving examples. By stock this includes locomotives, coaches, DMUs, EMUs, freight stock and everything else.

Some of the ones I can think of:

  • Class 151
  • Blue Pullman
  • Class 460
  • Class 311 (only part of a trainset exists)

I am sure there are much more though.
 
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Well 460s exist, they have just been rebuilt and renumbered.

Few of the Mk1 EMUs have survived, particularly the OHE types. All that are left of the 308s AFAIK are a few doors.
 

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Not seen a thread on this yet but what stock is there that there is no surviving examples. By stock this includes locomotives, coaches, DMUs, EMUs, freight stock and everything else.

Some of the ones I can think of:

  • Class 151
  • Blue Pullman
  • Class 460
  • Class 311 (only part of a trainset exists)

I am sure there are much more though.

If you're including class 460 (where vehicles still exist as a different class) we can also have classes 30, 48, 154, 210 and 316.

A few more off the top of my head: 16, 21, 22, 23, 29, 41 (Warship), 43 (Warship), 53, 70 (electric), 123, 124, 125, 126, 128 and 129.
 

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Of all the various types of engines built by the Taff Vale Railway, only one example of the O Class survives. All the others are lost to history.

It's a similar case with many pre-grouping companies. It'd be quicker listing (for example) which classes of LNWR locomotives have survivors than those that don't.
 

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Well 460s exist, they have just been rebuilt and renumbered.

Few of the Mk1 EMUs have survived, particularly the OHE types. All that are left of the 308s AFAIK are a few doors.

There is still a complete Class 303 at Bo'ness but I think its very rarely used as there is no electrification on the line.
 

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Off the top of my head;

Class 13
Stanier 2-6-4 tank engine
Fowler 2-6-4 tank engine
Midland Railway 2F tender loco
Midland Railway Big Bertha (a one off for banking the Lickey)
Class 506 EMU
Class 304 EMU
LNER V1 tank engine
LNER V3 tank engine
Kestrel diesel locomotive
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Midland Railway 3F tender loco
 

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Fairly certain all the 310 and 312 units were scrapped not seen of any survivors. Also 304/305/307 not sure if any of those exist either and apart from the 307 derived PCVs.
 

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Don't forget the big and rather beastly BR 432s 4REP EMUs. The last bits of which survive as traction packages underneath the 442s, while there is at least one former driving vehicle in use as an NR Yellow Train vehicle.
 

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I think it was rather sad when the 302/307 sets were refurbished 217 was overhauled to original condition
I remember riding on it to Southend in about 1982 the wood was repolished and the original bouncy seats were reupholstered
I have some pictures of it running special service days with 306-017 at Shenfield they should have kept them both as an example of 1st generation 25 kv stock
 

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no am10s exist now, an am12 BDTS survives, no Original Waterloo and city line vehicles

the stay of execution being the 310 unit used by hitachi for traction package proving, shame she wasnt kept - allocated to IL and RE during testing...

with hindsight london underground kept their prototypes..
 

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In terms of wagons I dare say all of the original Freightliner flats from the 1960's have now gone. Did any of the Midland Railway brake vans survive? I've always loved their quirky design.

Here's another one; the bogie Polybulk wagons that used to run on the Speedlink network; I can see no evidence that any of those have survived.

All the BOC bogie tanks have also now gone.

Have any of the Presflo wagons survived?
 
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A lot of Southern Railway era EMU's have gone forever.

6PAN/PUL, 4LAV, 2NOL, the original SUB units.

I'm not sure how the remaining 4EPB is doing since 5001 went to the torch.
 

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The vast majority of steam engine classes.

Grange, big County, little County, 47xx, Clan and that is just off the top of my head...
 

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I thought of some. The LMS twins 10000 and 10001, the Southern 1co-co1 locos 10201, 10202, 10203, DP2, The Fell locomotive, D0260 Lion, classes 21, 22, the original Warship 41. Class 74 amongst others...
 

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Quite a few LNER steam locos never made it to preservation:

The B17s, D15/16 Clauds and Thompson L1s for example. (The first two are subjects of new build projects I believe)
 

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Quite a few LNER steam locos never made it to preservation:

Generally down to the fact that most of them ended up in the scrap lines at places like Doncaster rather than private yards who would demolish them a lot quicker, same for locos that ended up at Crewe or Swindon. Its no mistake that the GWR is so well represented as so many example ended up at Woodhams.
 

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I thought of some. The LMS twins 10000 and 10001, the Southern 1co-co1 locos 10201, 10202, 10203, DP2, The Fell locomotive, D0260 Lion, classes 21, 22, the original Warship 41. Class 74 amongst others...

Could I also add the English Electric GT3 locomotive to the prototypes you've listed above?
 

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Could I also add the English Electric GT3 locomotive to the prototypes you've listed above?

Good call. I keep meaning to start a thread about one off survivors at some point, maybe a separate one for diesel and steam. Might do that tomorrow, ie the class 28 or Blue Peter.

Here's another one that never made it though: Big Bertha.
 
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Good call. I keep meaning to start a thread about one off survivors at some point, maybe a separate one for diesel and steam. Might do that tomorrow, ie the class 28 or Blue Peter.

Here's another one that never made it : Big Bertha.

Actually I think there is a surviving class 28 (D5705) undergoing long term restoration based on the East Lancs, Railway.
 
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Actually I think there is a surviving class 28 (D5705) undergoing long term restoration based on the East Lancs, Railway.

That's what I meant, one off survivors like the class 28, class 15, original Deltic etc. There's quite a few that we're very lucky to still have.
 

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Ah, my apologies, misread your posting there :oops:

No worries :)

Just thought of another loss, 2 in 1 in fact - Gas turbine 18100, which was eventually converted to prototype 25KV electric loco E1000 (nominally tops class 80) before being scrapped I think in the late 60s early 70s?
The other gas turbine (18000) survived although much altered. Would have loved a trip behind either of them by the way...
 
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