TRIVIA: Train types where the fleet number isn't displayed anywhere obvious

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AY1975

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Not sure whether this belongs under Traction & Rolling Stock, Railway History & Nostalgia or International Transport, but can anyone think of any examples of types of train, present or past, where the unit or vehicle number isn't shown anywhere immediately obvious and is only displayed inside the vehicle or in some other less obvious place?

This can include examples from the UK or abroad, and can also include trams/light rail vehicles and underground/metro/subway vehicles.

Two obvious examples from the present day UK rail network:

The Class 220 and 221 Voyagers have their unit numbers right at the bottom of the bodyside, next to the cab front.

The Grand Central 180s don't appear to display the actual unit number anywhere, only the individual car numbers (and the name if the unit has one).

And two from elsewhere:

The Irish Rail Mark 3 (and Mark 2?) coaches had their numbers on the coach ends next to the gangway connections, rather than on the bodyside.

I also seem to recall that some of the Netherlands Railways Mat'54 (a.k.a. "Hondekop" or "Dog's Head") and Mat'64 (a.k.a. "Plan T" and "Plan V") EMUs only had their unit numbers displayed inside the train. Some of them did have their unit numbers on the bodyside (near the cab ends as I recall) but I certainly seem to remember seeing some where it was only shown inside each vehicle.
 
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Grand Central 180s certainly used to have the full unit number at the base of the coupler
 

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Where is it on the class 390? I've seen loads passing the various cams at Crewe but have yet to spot a unit number.

Low down on the side, beneath the driver's side window.
 

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I have noticed that GWR 800001 has no vehicle number or unit number on the right hand side of the standard class driving vehicle 811001.
 

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I have noticed that GWR 800001 has no vehicle number or unit number on the right hand side of the standard class driving vehicle 811001.

That's been like it for ages, although why I don't know. Annoys me whenever I see it!

Prime example for the OP, Nottingham's trams. Specifically, the newer ones. I don't know if they've moved, but they used to be that tiny number above the cab on the sides. I do believe the older trams had clearer numbers, although my memory of the system is a touch vague at the moment!

There was another example that came to mind, but it's left me and I can't think what it was! Might have been the 185s, where the number is now tucked away down the side. It still annoys me even now, makes it much harder to ID them at a busy place like Piccadilly from the concourse for example. A bit of nitpicking, I know, and now allocations feature on RTT for TPX it's less of an issue for me.

What the other one was though, I have to confess I'm not sure!
 
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