Two old lamps - are they railway signal lamps or train lanterns of some sort?

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ethel

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I have these two very rusty old lanterns with no identifying marks. Can anyone help me identify them? ThanksIMG_20210701_151345533.jpgIMG_20210701_151325844.jpgIMG_20210701_151253457.jpgIMG_20210701_151304398.jpg
 
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I've not seen any railway signal lamps of either type before. A couple of questions:
(a) Is the first lamp lit by a candle contained within the spigot? Or is that an oil reservoir?
(b) with the second lamp, what is the colour of the filter and, again, how is that one lit?
 

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The long stems on the bottom make me think of the lamps fitted to horse drawn carriages rather than ones used on trains.
 

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Yes they are "carriage" lamps, as in horse drawn rather than railway carriages, although there is just a slim chance they could have been used on a railway owned horse drawn delivery wagon. ;)
 

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Thanks. I think you're probably right with carriage lamps.
 

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Rod Hull and Emu in one of their shows took a party of children around a stately home. Rod Hull told the children it was the seat of Baron Rutland. He picked up a old parafin lamp and said look Baron Rutland has put his intials on it.
 
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