DarloRich
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Cricket wise Scotland have from there!
You cant win as an England fan: Confident = arrogant, try to talk up the other team = condescending.
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Cricket wise Scotland have from there!
You cant win as an England fan: Confident = arrogant, try to talk up the other team = condescending.
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Xenophon PCDGS
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He has been a lifeguard at some time.Can anyone tell me what Kieffer Moore used to do before he was a footballer? Nobody on the telly is talking about it...
Giugiaro
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That England vs. Scotland last minute looked like it was some sort of Rugby game!
Yep.
Andy Pacer
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Was more than a little frought!
Peregrine 4903
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Emberassing performance from England, Southgate is such an average manager. Just terrible. Full credit to Scotland though, sadly for them their strikers are awful at finishing.
Butts
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Don't think Italy or even Wales will be worried about facing either of these on current form.
Grealish should have started - MOM Grant Hanley from humble Norwich City
That much sums it up for me.
OuterDistant
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Did anyone else hear a single word Harry Kane just said?
birchesgreen
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Yes but if you didn't you didn't really miss anything
I saw his mouth move for bit before I switched it off.
Just edged an even game against Croatia. Anti-football against Scotland. It's painful to watch.
Yet I wouldn't be surprised if we luck our way to the semi's and it turns to 'Arise Sir Gareth' again with a contract extension. Then another couple of tournaments of mediocraty.
Yet I wouldn't be surprised if we luck our way to the semi's and it turns to 'Arise Sir Gareth' again with a contract extension. Then another couple of tournaments of mediocraty.
DarloRich
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England played the game Scotland wanted. We were too cautious, ponderous, every bloody ball was sideways and there as no penetration. We made a set of very average players look good. Kane did nothing. Sterling did nothing. Poor.
61653 HTAFC
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If Jack Grealish is this years "great white hope" for the England team, we're really in trouble.
Peregrine 4903
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The thought of Phillips and Rice in midfield going up against Pogba and Kante terrifies me. We won't get that far based on current showings but wow our midfield is so average.
Also is it me or does Kane look injured and really slow?
Also is it me or does Kane look injured and really slow?
I think we’re fairly easy to frustrate... As far as it goes with Southgate I think he should be involved with England as he’s done a lot that’s right over the years and is clearly an intelligent person that has a good relationship with the players, but managing the team on the pitch just quite his forte and he needs someone more tactically adept alongside him.
HST274
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Couldn't have put it better
Xenophon PCDGS
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It was about par with his dismal showing during the match.
61653 HTAFC
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I think he was annoyed at the first question from the interviewer, which tried to goad him into undermining his manager.
WelshBluebird
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Some calm and propotionality please. You are more than likely through to the knockouts. Yes the performance wasn't great and there were some questionable managerial decisions (why on earth did he take Foden off?). But the job is likely done for now.
Compare the reaction here to England having one decent performance getting 3 points and one poor one getting 1 point with the same happening for Wales. No need to over react, though maybe the reaction is partly down to unrealistic expectations?
Compare the reaction here to England having one decent performance getting 3 points and one poor one getting 1 point with the same happening for Wales. No need to over react, though maybe the reaction is partly down to unrealistic expectations?
61653 HTAFC
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Or entirely realistic expectations, given the respective populations and histories of our two footballing nations?
Though as a Huddersfield Town supporter first and foremost, the Welsh position (that of the "underdog") is somewhat more familiar and comfortable for me!
HST274
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Maybe but Wales go into a tournament wanting to do well with relatively low expectations, we go in with inflated hopes to win it. We couldn't beat Netherlands let alone France with either of those performances in my opinion and as we are expected to win (however realistic) the backlash on the manager is expected after a bad performance.
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It was one flat game against a better-than-credited opposition. The two teams effectively cancelled each other out. Every team has games like it. Both teams deservedly got a point, in a way I’m pleased to see Scotland in with a chance of qualification going into the last group game. The next game will be different, onwards and upwards.
(I really think we have a size/height issue in midfield. Sterling and Foden against a big burly Scottish back line was amusing really. I imagine Southgate would have played Henderson if he wasn’t injured.)
(I really think we have a size/height issue in midfield. Sterling and Foden against a big burly Scottish back line was amusing really. I imagine Southgate would have played Henderson if he wasn’t injured.)
Xenophon PCDGS
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England have played two matches and currently have a goal difference of just one, with four points. Their next match is against the team currently topping the group.
61653 HTAFC
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I've noticed in a few games that the number has gone up at the end, then the final whistle has been blown before the allotted time has passed (according to the TV broadcast). Admittedly one of those games was the delayed Denmark Finland match, where such things were probably not at the forefront of anyone's mind.
Xenophon PCDGS
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The Scotland v Croatia match is something that Croatia will hope to redress the results on their first two matches that ended exactly the same as Scotland in one defeat and one draw and they usually play with a lot of pride. There are only a small number of third group stage places "up for grabs" so this will be in the minds of both those two teams managers. Scotland have one point from two games, but have yet to score a goal, whereas Croatia have scored a goal.
Harry Kane
Age 28, but looks like 38
Domenic Calvert-Lewin
Age 24, but looks like 21
Just my personal feelings on the England centre-forward position, which are:-
Harry Kane
Age 28, but looks like 38
Domenic Calvert-Lewin
Age 24, but looks like 21
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DarloRich
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I am afraid I have to disagree.
I don't expect England to win the tournament. We wont. We aren't good enough. What I do expect is for us to be able to find a way past one of the lowest ranked teams in the competition who have, at best, championship level players. (Robertson & Tierney apart) We should have 6 points and not have to bother about Tuesday night. Instead we put in a really poor performance which lacked speed, penetration and verve. We were far to cautious. We passed the ball nicely sideways/backwards all night and offered nothing. It was depressing.
There is nothing in that Scotland team to worry about yet we gave them the kind of respect we might for a team like Brazil. There is nothing to be scared of in that Scotland side. There are no goals in them. It was just so frustrating. I don't mind caution against sides that are better than us but Scotland aren't. The plan was clearly to score early and force Scotland to open up. When that didn't happen we had no plan b despite all the good players we have on the field and bench. We had no ideas how to play through or round a solid but bang average Scotland side.
Kane looked off the pace and knackered. He had one chance to run on and couldn't. Looked like he was running through tar. Sterling was anonymous. Both should have been off at half time. Why we played two defensive midfielders against that side is baffling. Neither fullback got into the game. Odd substitutions and times. One shot on target. Gilmour was man of the match ffs! That isn't good enough.
As for Wales they are a solid well organised side, lifted by Bale and Ramsey to a higher level than they otherwise would be. I have been very impressed with them. The Italy game will be hard but the job should have been done.
61653 HTAFC
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A point of order, the Croatia v Czechia game yesterday finished in a 1-1 draw.
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