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ajdunlop

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Any train I have been on between countries that still have passport control elsewhere in Europe do passport checks while trains are moving. Passport officers get on at a station on one side of the broader checking passports as they go and then get off at the 1st station in the other country. Indeed UK passport officers check passports for the Eurostar ski trains at Moutiers (last pickup station in the Alpes) meaning that none of the stations need to have passport control facilities.
My 1st question is why isn't this the case for the Eurostar, is it because trains can run Straight through without having to pick up boarder staff?
And 2nd with DB and Eurostar's future services (and eventually HS2 through services) is there an argument for doing passport checks on trains as they pass through the tunnel rather than have to adapt all the new stations that will have chunnel services?
Also would doing checks on trains not stop loopholes where passengers pretend to be getting off at Lille but instead stay on till England.

(As an aside the UK and Ireland should be in Schengen anyway which would render these controls unnecessary, but that's just my opinion.)
 
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brianthegiant

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Hi aj,

you will find this issue has been discussed in some detail in the 'Lille Loophole' thread
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=56559
and also the 'DB running on HS1' thread

the short answer is cost, you'd need more staff to have them travelling around. Also IT is more reliable at fixed locations and easier to apprehend offenders & take further action as necesary.
 

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No they don't, Bulgarıa/Turkey (europe) do passport checks whılst the traın ıs staıonary and Turkey/Bulgarıa you have to get off the traın
 

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Prior to Schengen I did Brig (CH)-Domodossala (IT)-Locano (CH) - Passport control by both Switzerland and Italy was done in the Platform at Brig (with all doors locked) - it took about 15 mins. Re-entering Switzerland on a FART local unit the passport check took about 5 mins
 

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The only on the move passport check ive done in Europe was Slovenia> Croatia the rest the train stopped and Police got on.
 

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Ones I can recollect before the likes of Poland joined the EU:
Vejpert (Germany / Czech R), train (2 car diesel unit) stopped at Bärenstein (seemingly in the middle of nowhere) to be met by two border police who had arrived by car.

Szczecin (Germany / Poland) train stopped at border station (Gumience) whilst police based there went through train.

Bad Schandau (Germany / Czech R) had passport checked on platform even though we merely standing there waiting for the next train back towards Dresden and had no intention of going towards Czecho.

Sopron (Austria / Hungary) was possible to arrive from Austria, get off and stay on the same platform then return to Austria without doing passport control. If you left or tried to access that platform from outside then you had to go through the border control point on the station.
 

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there are still onboard checks between Hungary & Romania and Romania & Bulgaria as Romania and Bulgaria are not in Schengen
 
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