UKR - The Waverley 30/12/15

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  1. philjo

    philjo Established Member

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    Provisional details on UKR website for "the Waverley" tour on 30 December to borders railway.

    not yet open for booking.

    provisionally timed to leave Kings cross 05:45

    http://www.ukrailtours.com/product/the-waverley/

     
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  3. Bungle965

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    I think that i would rather do this than the Pathfinder one.
    Sam
     
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    Would rather 86101, 87002, or even 86259 than a skoda. :(

    Looks like this is aimed at the general public market rather than the enthusiast. And as for the silly o'clock departure time from the Cross.......
     
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    I think that really it is aimed at both. And are 86101, 87002 not tied up with sleeper work.
    Sam
     
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    Absolutely ridiculous the time of leaving and back, this mean I have no transporters tube or train running on that time from outside of central London far too late risk of missing the last train.
    This is put me off I have already booked with Pathfinder.
     
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  7. theblackwatch

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    Who set off even earlier (by 11 hours!) :lol:

    I think most of us have to drive to tours normally, or stay overnight - if you look at Pathfinder's programme in November/December, they all start between 05.40 and 06.40.
     
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    Both Pathfinder and Uk railtours cater for diffrent ends of the country Pathfinder tends to be more towards the north although that can vary.
    UK Railtours do pick up in the London area.
    Sam
     
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    I agree, very early. I guess the limiting factor will be paths on the new line?
     
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    Yes, to accommodate any tours they have to run outside of the normal timetable or have to run in the path of a cancelled ScotRail service which is what happens when the steam runs.
     
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    Yes that is the real problem, that is why pathfinder had to do a overnight trip to do the line. If the line was built double track we would not have this problem but because of it being single track charter operators have a problem.
    Sam
     
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    Agreed. I guess it is difficult to have a compelling business case for a loop based on infrequent charters (of I guess marginal revenue), as good an idea as it would be
     
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    Yes there are three dynamic loops (I think) on the route so not enough for regular charters outside the ones that have already been planned ahead.
    Sam
     
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    Thanks for that Sam
     
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    I guess with the distances involved from London, it has to be an earlier start and late return.

    Perhaps for those living in the North, then it may be better to do one of the steam/diesel trips from Edinburgh along the line that I think Steam Dreams/Scotrail are promoting?
     
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    More to the point, the tour is operated by DB Schenker and I am not sure that those locos are on their safety case any more.
     
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    Yup tour still at Edinburgh one hour and 15 late and counting after the booked Skoda did what all Skodas do well - and failed. :(
     
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    79 late off Edinburgh, looks like you have 67023 now - I wonder how much scope there is to pick up some time?
     
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