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Utterby Halt

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Does anyone know if Utterby Halt had a gate box ? The line crosses a road so I’m guessing there were manually operated gates
 
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I see no cognoscenti have replied, but a quick look on Google Streetview shows a Victorian- style house still in existence, just by the site of what the 25" map calls Utterby Motor Halt, which doesn't exist on the earlier edition of the map. So I assume that to have been a railway house. If I haven't got tyhe wrong Utterby!

Link to 1907 map: https://maps.nls.uk/view/114646824
Link to 1888 map: https://maps.nls.uk/view/114646821
Link to Google Streetview
 
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Very interesting - so the house would have been occupied by the gatekeeper. I love the word cognoscenti
 

stuving

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The entry for Utterby Halt on Disused Stations refers to that house as the gate-keeper's house. That makes sense, as there's no signal box there - the nearest are Ludborough to the north (3.6 km) and Keddington Road in Louth to the south (7.2 km). And two "motor halts" but no signals or points in between.

Incidentally, I assume the term "motor halt" was used for these halts as they were built specifically for the railmotor service.
 

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Having looked at the various maps (few) and photos (even fewer), my opinion is that there wasn’t a gate box there, just a crossing-keeper’s cottage. The signals were probably worked from a ground-frame outside the cottage, but before the halt opened there might have been only Distants and no Home signals.
 

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Having looked more closely at the map, I see there was a signal marked (SP) just north of Utterby Halt. Also, I should correct the distance to Ludborough: it was less than 1.2 km so that signal was less than 1 km from Ludborough where the map shows a signal box. I guess that could have been operated from Ludborough.

There is no signal post marked near Fotherby Halt. Of course you have to take a view about what gets marked on the 25" maps and what might be left off. The two houses next to the crossing are visibly of the same design (contrasting band of masonry, eaves detailing) which supports their being railway-built, and almost certainly for the crossing keepers.

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Finally, from looking at the pictures on Disused Stations, it is clear that there were more signals, at a later date. And there is also a picture of the Fotherby signal box - or shed - in its new home. I don't think it's a surprise that such a small building got left off the OS maps. For the signals, the same ones are marked on the ca. 1888 and 1905 25" maps and on the 6" maps of those dates and 1947. So it looks to me as if these were never revised when the motor halts were added in 1905, nor later if there were further changes.
 
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Having looked more closely at the map, I see there was a signal marked (SP) just north of Utterby Halt. Also, I should correct the distance to Ludborough: it was less than 1.2 km so that signal was less than 1 km from Ludborough where the map shows a signal box. I guess that could have been operated from Ludborough.

There is no signal post marked near Fotherby Halt. Of course you have to take a view about what gets marked on the 25" maps and what might be left off. The two houses next to the crossing are visibly of the same design (contrasting band of masonry, eaves detailing) which supports their being railway-built, and almost certainly for the crossing keepers.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

Finally, from looking at the pictures on Disused Stations, it is clear that there were more signals, at a later date. And there is also a picture of the Fotherby signal box - or shed - in its new home. I don't think it's a surprise that such a small building got left off the OS maps. For the signals, the same ones are marked on the ca. 1888 and 1905 25" maps and on the 6" maps of those dates and 1947. So it looks to me as if these were never revised when the motor halts were added in 1905, nor later if there were further changes.
Interesting comment , so I guess Utterby and Fotherby gates were staffed right up to closure in 1970 .
 

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