So whats this then (??) :neutral:Julian G said:A HST is not a loco
It's a power car , So it's make it a unit
Saying a Power car is a Class 43 is no different to saying a Buffet car is a class 40. It is a unit with no set number and 2 power cars at each end... But one is still a proper train it is just not a loco.Richard Armstrong said:We all know he means a Class 43.
But Class 43 is a Warship but they had all gone by the times the TOPS system was introduced and a power car is a power car...tubechallenger said:Can I just say that we could say the following;
A HST - A rake of coaches with a class 43 'HST' locomotive at either end
A class 43 - A locomotive which forms a HST
The sleeper does not use Top and Tailed 57s. It is just one at the front a 'proper loco hauled train' and it is even shunted about at Plymouth a HST is a fixed formation unit!joea1 said:43s are nothing like 150s. The sleeper uses top and tail 57s. Does that make it a DMU? Same goes for top and tail HSTs methinks.
*Shocked*86242 said:The sleeper does not use Top and Tailed 57s. It is just one at the front a 'proper loco hauled train' and it is even shunted about at Plymouth a HST is a fixed formation unit!
And even if you think one is a loco that does not make me take any more interest in them, they are a unit, they are boring, they are just a HST... But I do think they are a 'proper train' and something nice to travel in but they are just a unit with a power car at each end...www.dreadful.org.uk said:HST - High Speed Train, official BR term for what the general public would understand as Inter City 125. True bashers consider these to be high speed DMU's and thereby of no interest.