[Virgin Trains] Class 57 + MK3 gen

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metrocammel

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More Virgin Mk3's for North Wales -

1D25 1716 Euston - Holyhead 390 to Crewe for 57301 & 573xx forward top &
tail on Mk3 set to Bangor (terminating due to flooding at Gaerwen).

Wednesday 9th Nov

1R18 0532 Holyhead - Euston starts Bangor with Mk3 set - swap to 390 at
Crewe. -
So anyone who fancies some heads out on the NW Coast, you need to get up early tommorow!!
 
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I find it Appauling that a full Train of passengers will have to change trains on a Normally Direct Service

Why cant Virgin operate 57 + 390?
 

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Might not be able to turn the loco around?
Alstom threatened to withdraw the "warranty" if coupling of 390s & Pendolinos wasn't stopped.
 

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Mojo said:
Might not be able to turn the loco around?
Alstom threatened to withdraw the "warranty" if coupling of 390s & Pendolinos wasn't stopped.
Is this actually true about the warranty? As drags have been happening regularly for engineering works.
 

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It was suggested that Alstom were unhappy about it happenning daily with the Holyhead services.
 

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158 said:
I find it Appauling that a full Train of passengers will have to change trains on a Normally Direct Service

Why cant Virgin operate 57 + 390?
I think that service isn't going to be the most populated service- (especially from Anglesey/N Wales, as I dont think there are many London commuters up there) but i imagine a few people would get on at Crewe for the south. Also, Im not sure why it was t&t mk3 yesterday/today, (assume knock on effect of Voyager / Pendo failures) but when it happend on Friday 4th, it was because it was going to Llandudno, which has no run - round facilities, so Pendo's can work there, as I dont think you can T & T a pendo- (+ they havent been passed from Llandudno Jcn - Llandudno)
 

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I'd assume that it'd be too awkward to run round the set at Bangor, hence the requirement to top & tail the train. Also not sure where they were hoping to stable the train - that could be a factor.
 
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