[Virgin Trains] Class 57 + MK3 gen

[metrocammel]

More Virgin Mk3's for North Wales -

1D25 1716 Euston - Holyhead 390 to Crewe for 57301 & 573xx forward top &
tail on Mk3 set to Bangor (terminating due to flooding at Gaerwen).

Wednesday 9th Nov

1R18 0532 Holyhead - Euston starts Bangor with Mk3 set - swap to 390 at
Crewe. -
So anyone who fancies some heads out on the NW Coast, you need to get up early tommorow!!

 

[Ben]

I find it Appauling that a full Train of passengers will have to change trains on a Normally Direct Service

Why cant Virgin operate 57 + 390?

 

[Mojo]

Might not be able to turn the loco around?
Alstom threatened to withdraw the "warranty" if coupling of 390s & Pendolinos wasn't stopped.

 

[matt]

Might not be able to turn the loco around?
Alstom threatened to withdraw the "warranty" if coupling of 390s & Pendolinos wasn't stopped.

Is this actually true about the warranty? As drags have been happening regularly for engineering works.

 

[Mojo]

It was suggested that Alstom were unhappy about it happenning daily with the Holyhead services.

 

[metrocammel]

I find it Appauling that a full Train of passengers will have to change trains on a Normally Direct Service

Why cant Virgin operate 57 + 390?

I think that service isn't going to be the most populated service- (especially from Anglesey/N Wales, as I dont think there are many London commuters up there) but i imagine a few people would get on at Crewe for the south. Also, Im not sure why it was t&t mk3 yesterday/today, (assume knock on effect of Voyager / Pendo failures) but when it happend on Friday 4th, it was because it was going to Llandudno, which has no run - round facilities, so Pendo's can work there, as I dont think you can T & T a pendo- (+ they havent been passed from Llandudno Jcn - Llandudno)

 

[Tomnick]

I'd assume that it'd be too awkward to run round the set at Bangor, hence the requirement to top & tail the train. Also not sure where they were hoping to stable the train - that could be a factor.