With all due respect it may not be the incidents. There are many reasons why they may not have taken them on.Any form of incidents even if it was 10 yrs ago and minor like tpws trip once or one missed station they'll just rule you out. My mate has been on 19yrs missed a station and had a tpws in 09 and 2011 didn't even get an interview.
Depots are too far for me otherwise it would be ideal
He showed me the email which said and I quote. Despite the incidents being spread over a long career we've received so many applications we've decided not to interview anyone with any safety of the line incidents?With all due respect it may not be the incidents. There are many reasons why they may not have taken them on.
That does seem harsh then if that's the case. I suppose unfortunately it makes it an easy way for them to whittle down applicants.He showed me the email which said and I quote. Despite the incidents being spread over a long career we've received so many applications we've decided not to interview anyone with any safety of the line incidents?
I said exactly what you just said so he showed me the email? I personally thought it very harsh. At one time it was just spads
That does seem harsh then if that's the case. I suppose unfortunately it makes it an easy way for them to whittle down applicants.
I don't personally think a Driver with a spotless record is necessarily a better Driver. In fact, sometimes you could argue it can breed an unhealthy amount of complacency or even worse, arrogance.
I also don't think an SOL (or a few) on someone's record makes them a bad Driver at all depending on the circumstances. The main thing with an incident is the learning curve it gives the Driver in question and how they act on it.
Don't get me wrong, there are obviously some fantastic Drivers out there with good SOL records and some bad Drivers with bad records but it isn't as clear cut as that mainly. Ironically, a company who is averse to taking on Qualified Drivers with minor blemishes on their record could be passing up the opportunity to employ a well seasoned Driver who has adapted and learnt from their errors and moved forward in a hugely positive way from the experience.
I agree entirely with you on everything you've said.That does seem harsh then if that's the case. I suppose unfortunately it makes it an easy way for them to whittle down applicants.
I don't personally think a Driver with a spotless record is necessarily a better Driver. In fact, sometimes you could argue it can breed an unhealthy amount of complacency or even worse, arrogance.
I also don't think an SOL (or a few) on someone's record makes them a bad Driver at all depending on the circumstances. The main thing with an incident is the learning curve it gives the Driver in question and how they act on it.
Don't get me wrong, there are obviously some fantastic Drivers out there with good SOL records and some bad Drivers with bad records but it isn't as clear cut as that mainly. Ironically, a company who is averse to taking on Qualified Drivers with minor blemishes on their record could be passing up the opportunity to employ a well seasoned Driver who has adapted and learnt from their errors and moved forward in a hugely positive way from the experience.
Any form of incidents even if it was 10 yrs ago and minor like tpws trip once or one missed station they'll just rule you out. My mate has been on 19yrs missed a station and had a tpws in 09 and 2011 didn't even get an interview.
Depots are too far for me otherwise it would be ideal
That's exactly the situation with my colleague. He started with me in 99. He's a really good driver. The missed station was 09 and tpws a yr later or something like that. Seems ridiculous. Minor incidents which I consider they are and so long ago I think he deserved a chance. I'm certain someone with 19yrs on the job compared to someone with 2yrs who's not really yet proved themselves means they're missing out on good peopleVTEC/LNER have a similar policy of not taking on anyone with a safety of line incident on their record. As a result the qualified drivers they take on seem to be ex managers who are more likely to have a clean licence by virtue of hardly doing any driving to be involved in an incident or otherwise they take on people who have done a couple of years on the units and been fortunate enough to keep their noses clean again by not doing enough driving to be involved in an incident.
You could have a top quality applicant apply with 20 years under their belt who’s may of had an incident years ago and their application will be binned and I feel the company are missing out on good applicants with the right attitude towards the job as a result.
What about CAT B SPaR or TPWS on Greens due to signal failure a or equipment failure. You can't be knocked back if Exonerated?
Fatality out of your control. That's still goes down as a safe of line incident. As it's deemed as a collision. Recorded on slims for ever more. VT can do one then if they want a 100% clean record. No driver has a 100% clean. Yes might be Exonerated from incidents but still held on record.
They've changed since then. I've seen the email clearly stating we have not invited to interview/selection anyone with any incident. Saw it with my own eyes mate. Now I also know someone who got on vtwc 4 yrs ago who's missed 2 station.nothing to do with incidents Ive interviewed with Virgin and at the time had two on my record
nothing to do with incidents Ive interviewed with Virgin and at the time had two on my record
Your lucky. I've applied twice and didn't even get a response from them. So not holding my breath this time round.
I do like the sound of Virgin, but I feel the salary doesn’t have too much of a gap from most of the South’s many operators. (Say you were to be based at Euston)
With that in mind, unless your TOC is unbearable, you may as well stay where you are.
And what’s the interview like?
When you’ve got thousands applying, you can afford to be picky. Annoying but I suppose youncant blame them.
Incredibly pleasant and why I failed.
We done rules in the morning, went on to a group exercise and then interview at the end of the day. It was like having tea with family and I just wasn't prepared for it to be so calm and laid back.
This we about 18 months ago so things may have changed
What about CAT B SPaR or TPWS on Greens due to signal failure a or equipment failure. You can't be knocked back if Exonerated?
That shouldn't even be recorded on a Drivers file as it's an equipment failure.