Waterloo Station - What New Shops?

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dmacw

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I see that Waterloo station is having more retail space created, but I'm struggling to find out what's opening.

http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/Press-Releases/WORK-STARTS-AT-WATERLOO-STATION-TO-CREATE-20-000-SQ-FT-OF-NEW-RETAIL-SPACE-171b.aspx

States 18 new retail units will be created
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/waterloo-station-turns-trendy-as-carluccios-corney-and-barrow-and-thomas-pink-open-up-on-new-concourse-7799993.html

States that the following will be present


Delicatessen Carluccio's and wine seller Corney and Barrow are coming to the station.

A branch of upmarket shirt seller Thomas Pink will also be installed in the station formerly home to Sock Shop.

Anyone know what else will be there?
 
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Let's hope that they follow the example of St. Pancras (and the redeveloped KX - I suspect, by their absence) of having a no downmarket-fast-food restaurant policy.
 

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Another fast-food restaurant is probably exactly what Waterloo needs. The queues at Burger King and McDonalds are always huge. There would definitely be a demand for another fast food restaurant.
 

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By the way, doesn't answer your question, but as an aside, what they've built so far is well cool... The current temporary route to/from Waterloo East involves going up the escalators to the balcony. It's surprisingly high up and gives quite nice views of the station concourse far below.
 

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Two minutes' walk round the corner to Lower Marsh and you'll find a wide variety of up(pish)-market grub at decent prices most dinner times.
 

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Let's hope that they follow the example of St. Pancras (and the redeveloped KX - I suspect, by their absence) of having a no downmarket-fast-food restaurant policy.

Seconded. People can get a panini at Carluccios in about the same time as a burger - much better for them. Fast food creates fat *******s and on the railway, lots of litter.
 

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Do you think people are made of money? £4 panini or £1.50 burger...

When did you last use a station/airport/services Burger King?

And don't be so faux-parochial, it's embarrassing. £4 on food is pretty normal.If people can afford train fares, they can afford £4. Especially Waterloo passengers!
 

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You get what you pay for. A Maccy Ds burger will be small and not particularly satisfying while something from GBK/Byron/Giraffe/etc will taste much nicer and be bigger.
 

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It's not the fast food I'll miss, it's the Whistlestop/Travellers' Fare style places. Even if they're a bit pricey, they can still provide decent, edible sausage rolls, scotch eggs and confectionery. Panini are not exactly my cup of tea. Speaking of tea, that's another problem. There are simply no places that do cheap tea any more.
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You get what you pay for. A Maccy Ds burger will be small and not particularly satisfying while something from GBK/Byron/Giraffe/etc will taste much nicer and be bigger.

'Nicer' is a bit subjective. I never like burgers that are crammed with sauces or have loads of whatever spice they put in them. A bit of meat between two pieces of bread is fine by me.
 

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When did you last use a station/airport/services Burger King?

And don't be so faux-parochial, it's embarrassing. £4 on food is pretty normal.If people can afford train fares, they can afford £4. Especially Waterloo passengers!

I'm sure lots of people use Waterloo because they need to to get to work. Doesn't necessarily mean they have loads of money left over after wages minus commuting minus normal living expenses.

(On the other hand people who primarily concerned to save money would probably not be buying food at a station anyway when round-the-corner is almost always miles cheaper)
 

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What would be nice would be a self serve hot food place like the one that used to be at Paddington ( where the WHS now is near the bottom of the road ramp ).
 

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Damn, fair bit of snobbery in this thread. Sometimes you need to eat and a £1.30 double cheeseburger is just the ticket.
 

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Damn, fair bit of snobbery in this thread. Sometimes you need to eat and a £1.30 double cheeseburger is just the ticket.
Indeed.. I'm not pushed for cash but when at Kings Cross / St Pancras from previous experience eating / drinking in these "wonderful" posh restaurants / coffee shops, I now usually opt to go over the road to McDonalds and have a Chicken Legend! The food in these places is by no means brilliant, the coffee is the same as Costa - why would I want to pay more?!
 

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I have deleted some posts which add nothing to the topic - by saying a thread is pointless are you not just adding to the pointlessness?

Back to the topic, I'm not certain what is going in at Waterloo but I would be fascinated to know where you can get a burger on a station for £1.50 (aside from the occasional McDonalds). I find Burger King, which seems to be the favoured SSP chain, to be incredibly overpriced on railway stations (even with the Bite discount).
 

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Food in airports, railway service stations and motorway service stations is inevitably expensive. Oddly enough last time I stopped at motorway services there were no queues at any of the food outlets - except McDonalds which had a queue reaching as far as the service station entrance.
 

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Not everyone can afford up market fast food. At the end of the day a burger is a burger when you're hungry.
Depends what you're after. I was surprised when I went into 'Downmarket' McDonalds for lunch today to find out actually how expensive it was. I find it costs very similar, if not more, to what I've seen charged at many 'Upmarket' outlets at St Pancakes and Kings Cross.
 

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Food in airports, railway service stations and motorway service stations is inevitably expensive. Oddly enough last time I stopped at motorway services there were no queues at any of the food outlets - except McDonalds which had a queue reaching as far as the service station entrance.

Anywhere there is a captive market, people naturally exploit it. This includes McD's, although they are generally the cheapest in their local area, which I imagine brings in the punters (although it makes me wonder whether they have had their taste buds bypassed). It's even worse for hot drinks, and I have to say the quality is terrible. Worst of all in airports, because you can't simply take things through and have to order air-side. If they looked at it the other way, an enducement to travel rather than a necessity to feed people, then they could offer quality products at low cost (or reasonable products free, like MML's free tea). Thing is, they don't.

Me, I still regret the loss of Wimpey, although I will admit a weakness for KFC.
 

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Like Mojo I don't find McDonalds to be all that cheap any more nor, in my opinion, is the food particularly filling. For my part I find it better to go to eat4less (& similar) or the chippy.
There will always be demand for fast food, especially for the Friday and Saturday evening crowd who take the train after having one too many

The station prices will hurt those on BoJ restricted tickets as they won't be allowed to leave station premises (except for a necessary interchange)

I'm always suspicious about high-brow shops opening because in part it makes me feel out of place and we're being constantly reminded of being in tough economic times. Perhaps it's just the way I was brought up that anything over £30 on shoes is a rip-off but if they get the custom then best of luck to them
 

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However, McDonalds does have a large range of cheap and filling food available on the Saver Menu... and a good number of products for under a pound as well. Combining a Saver Menu burger, medium fries and a medium carbonated drink will give you a meal for under £3.

The saver menu is very popular, and while they aren't offered as part of 'meal deals', saver burgers are regularly combined with fries and a drink, although some people also buy just several saver burgers on their own.

There's a McDonalds for everyone.
 

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The current temporary route to/from Waterloo East involves going up the escalators to the balcony. It's surprisingly high up and gives quite nice views of the station concourse far below.

Isn't that to be part of the finalised route to/from Waterloo East though?

I read something a while back that said the original escalators in line with the footbridge would be lost, and a full gateline for Waterloo East would also be squeezed in somewhere. Are there any signs where that might be?
 

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I see that Waterloo station is having more retail space created, but I'm struggling to find out what's opening...



Anyone know what else will be there?

Yo! Sushi and Carluccio's will both be upstairs, as will a new branch of Hotel Chocolat (I think following on from the successful store in King's Cross which is always packed!). Other than that, I'm not sure.
 

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I find that MacDonalds do a lot of expensive promotions which for a meal will often cost in excess of £5. That said, they do tend to have offers which are usually available at the Leeds Station outlet (Deli of the day and chips can be reasonably filling for around £3.50)

More importantly, the station Maccy D's is also particularly useful for cheap(ish) cups of tea!

I find the posh outlets at St Pancras/Kings Cross are good for decent beer. However, for food I would go somewhere cheaper.

If I get there in time, I find the big Weatherspoons breakfast at £4.50 is particularly good value - although obviously not that many stations have them.
 

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I would love to see a 'Poundland', to annoy outlets that think it is acceptable to charge vastly inflated prices for chocolate bars, sandwiches, books, batteries and soft drinks.
 

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Isn't that to be part of the finalised route to/from Waterloo East though?

I read something a while back that said the original escalators in line with the footbridge would be lost, and a full gateline for Waterloo East would also be squeezed in somewhere. Are there any signs where that might be?

Looking at the state of play at the moment, my best guess is that the gateline will be a widened entrance directly above where the bottom of the demolished escalators used to be, so passengers will emerge on the shopping balcony and then take one of the new escalators down. Which would imply you are correct.
 
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