Weekend 1st on a Monday?

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reb0118

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Would weekend first be available on Monday 7th May (travelling on the 08:30 EC service from EDB to KGX). My diary states it is a holiday Monday.
 
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Last year, when returning from Dundee to London on a bank holiday, I attempted to upgrade and was told that as first class was "busy" I could not. As unfortunately EC now don't allow pre booking of the supplement no other option.
 

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Sometimes I think its subject to availability of ticket stock rather than seats when you upgrade to get a seat only for first to become standing like the rest of the train and you relies that you are most likely the only person with a valid first class ticket and by being honest in seeking out the guard to buy one yo have lost out.

Ok, this is fairly rare but it has happened to me twice now. :-x
 

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Sometimes I think its subject to availability of ticket stock rather than seats when you upgrade to get a seat only for first to become standing like the rest of the train and you relies that you are most likely the only person with a valid first class ticket and by being honest in seeking out the guard to buy one yo have lost out.

Ok, this is fairly rare but it has happened to me twice now. :-x
Is there a bit missing in here?
 

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We travelled Peterborough to York and back today, upgrading in each direction and had no problem at all. Both services were reasonably quiet and so there was plenty of space to upgrade.
 

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I think he meant:

Sometimes I think its subject to availability of ticket stock rather than seats.

On two occasions I have upgraded to Weekend First, only for First to become full and standing like the rest of the train, and I realised that I was most likely the only person with a valid first class ticket and by being honest in seeking out the guard to buy one I have lost out.
Although what doesn't quite make sense is that for Weekend First, you find a seat and the guard charges you the supplement. Part of the reason for only allowing such upgrades on board is that they should only be issued if a seat is spare! So this situation should never happen.

If 1st Class becomes declassified with Standard passengers having to stand throughout 1st Class, then the Weekend 1st supplement should be refunded. If EC have refused to do this, I'd be surprised!
 
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