West Coast Motors & Borders Buses

[overthewater]

Air is back in operation a week on Monday.

 

[DunsBus]

Full timetables are expected to resume on Borders Buses from 10th August, according to Scottish Borders Council's website.

 

[R 19]

Vehicle SG65EEO is now with Glasgow City bus.

 

[route101]

Was on the Borders 93 today between Peebles and West Linton. Only me used the service. Anyone used these and the 91 to Biggar?

 

[Blindtraveler]

I've not used the 93 but I've used the 91 on the couple of occasions, Good run. Is it still Stuart's coaches that operate it?

 

[route101]

I've not used the 93 but I've used the 91 on the couple of occasions, Good run. Is it still Stuart's coaches that operate it?

Both routes are Borders Buses (Ex Buskers). Might be getting confused as i took a 91 from Biggar to Lanark, that was Stuarys, maybe there was a through Peebles to Lanark service/.

 

[awsnews]

A couple of WCMs Irizar bodied Scania coaches are showing up in slightly unusual locations on bustimes.org.
11319, YT13 YUF, appears to be based at Stranraer with regular trips up to Glasgow whilst 11315, YT13 YUB, appears to be operating from Cumbernauld on a wide variety of services including up to Aberdeen.
Is this just a tracking anomaly regarding vehicle identities or are these actual activities?

 

[Stena Galloway]

A couple of WCMs Irizar bodied Scania coaches are showing up in slightly unusual locations on bustimes.org.
11319, YT13 YUF, appears to be based at Stranraer with regular trips up to Glasgow whilst 11315, YT13 YUB, appears to be operating from Cumbernauld on a wide variety of services including up to Aberdeen.
Is this just a tracking anomaly regarding vehicle identities or are these actual activities?

Possibly the tracking is taken from the Citylink ERG machines. Citylink might have changed machines for repairs then put theses on to other buses. Sounds like one is on an Ulsterbus and the other is on a Stagecoach Western Van Hool or Panorama.

 

[awsnews]

Possibly the tracking is taken from the Citylink ERG machines. Citylink might have changed machines for repairs then put theses on to other buses. Sounds like one is on an Ulsterbus and the other is on a Stagecoach Western Van Hool or Panorama.

That would make more sense, thanks

 

[experts]

This firm and Parks appear to be covering First Glasgow 1s and 2s in Clydebank at peaks. Buses have on loan to First Glasgow on them

 

[Stena Galloway]

This firm and Parks appear to be covering First Glasgow 1s and 2s in Clydebank at peaks. Buses have on loan to First Glasgow on them

Where did you see this?

 

[experts]

Where did you see this?

Clydebank this morning

 

[lastbus]

This firm and Parks appear to be covering First Glasgow 1s and 2s in Clydebank at peaks. Buses have on loan to First Glasgow on them

They are running dedicated school journeys on behalf of First Glasgow.

 

[Stena Galloway]

Clydebank this morning

I've just seen a pic. Appears to be some sort of school service that is being operated. S2 Clydebank High to Faifley.

 

[route101]

A couple of WCMs Irizar bodied Scania coaches are showing up in slightly unusual locations on bustimes.org.
11319, YT13 YUF, appears to be based at Stranraer with regular trips up to Glasgow whilst 11315, YT13 YUB, appears to be operating from Cumbernauld on a wide variety of services including up to Aberdeen.
Is this just a tracking anomaly regarding vehicle identities or are these actual activities?

Ive noticed the Silver Irizars are back on the Air service,a few of them. Did they not order enough panoramas?

 

[Stena Galloway]

Ive noticed the Silver Irizars are back on the Air service,a few of them. Did they not order enough panoramas?

There was an extra 2 Panoramas due. Dont know if these have been held up with Covid-19. There has always been a few Irizars on the Air service even when the Panoramas arrived.

 

[Brel158]

Its all part of continued measures for additional cleaning etc.

 

[cnjb8]

Hello, some help please!
Is Lochgilphead depot still open, and if not, were all vehciles transferred to Ardrishaig?

 

[scosutsut]

Does anyone know the length of the 69 plate Enviro 200 MMCs allocated to Borders Buses route 253?

I'm guessing to get 38+ high backed seats plus a couple of bikes they are the full 11.8m jobs?

 

[Jordan Adam]

Does anyone know the length of the 69 plate Enviro 200 MMCs allocated to Borders Buses route 253?

I'm guessing to get 38+ high backed seats plus a couple of bikes they are the full 11.8m jobs?

Indeed 11.8M 6 Cylinder examples.

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

Aye I think they are full lengthers, Really nice buses as well

 

[scosutsut]

Indeed 11.8M 6 Cylinder examples.

Aye I think they are full lengthers, Really nice buses as well

Hmm interesting, thanks for the replies.

I ask because a Borders E200 MMC on the 253 and a East Coast Buses B8RLE on the X7 merged onto the A1 Edinburgh bound in front of me today, as soon as I passed the B8RLE he was straight out and past the E200 in short order so I wondered if the E200s were the less powerful versions, but based on that, that shouldn't be in that case.

It's where the A1 inclines up, of course the X7 could have been pushing to make up time and the 253 the opposite there would be no way of knowing.

I'm just curious, as with most of my questions!

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

They're the 6 cylinder Cummins engines coupled with a Voith Gearbox

 

[Jordan Adam]

Hmm interesting, thanks for the replies.

I ask because a Borders E200 MMC on the 253 and a East Coast Buses B8RLE on the X7 merged onto the A1 Edinburgh bound in front of me today, as soon as I passed the B8RLE he was straight out and past the E200 in short order so I wondered if the E200s were the less powerful versions, but based on that, that shouldn't be in that case.

It's where the A1 inclines up, of course the X7 could have been pushing to make up time and the 253 the opposite there would be no way of knowing.

I'm just curious, as with most of my questions!

The issue is with the gearbox rather than engine. The Borders E200MMCs are 4 speed Voiths while the B8RLEs are 6 speed ZFs. The ZF box being superior in pretty much every way.

E200s are better with Allisons boxes, although believe it or not due to the way they're geared a 4 cylinder Allisons E200 is actually faster above 40MPH than a 6 cylinder example.

 

[DunsBus]

I've been on a few of these E200MMCs and I agree with what's been said about them. They're very impressive machines, both inside and out. My local route, the 60 (which regains a Sunday service from this weekend) is worked from both the Galashiels and Berwick ends so I've seen a mix of all the route-branded ones, as well as buses from both the 69 and 20-plate batches.

 

[WestieBus]

That must be one of the last of the old model E200s that ADL have made.
I'm sure they said that they were discontinuing them in 2016.
Sam

The E300's were 2016, the E200's were cancelled in 2018,

Fairline/Scotline are part of Borders, City Sightseeing is part of Glasgow Citybus etc. Those are all really just brands rather than separate parts of the company.

Wait, something was wrong here, Fairline's depot is in Glasgow, so how co it be owned by Borders? Also, Fairline Coaches got absorbed into West Coast Motors, Fairline is non-existent.

 

[Jordan Adam]

The E300's were 2016, the E200's were 2018.

To be pedantic the E300s were 2015, the last examples being registered in December. The E200s were mid 2017, however some stock built dealer specification examples were sold slightly later.

 

[Jordan Adam]

Wait, something was wrong here, Fairline's depot is in Glasgow, so how co it be owned by Borders? Also, Fairline Coaches got absorbed into West Coast Motors, Fairline is non-existent.

Indeed, not sure why you bring this up though as the post is over a year old and quite irrelevant now.

 

[TheEastCoaster]

Is there a reason Border Buses 51/52/X95 don’t serve the Royal Infirmary Hospital, I can get the X95 for it being an express but the 51/52 makes no sense, was it like this when First and Perryman ran these respectable services?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Is there a reason Border Buses 51/52/X95 don’t serve the Royal Infirmary Hospital, I can get the X95 for it being an express but the 51/52 makes no sense, was it like this when First and Perryman ran these respectable services?

It was specified like that by Borders Council. As the tender spec from 2008 states on page 2... "Within Edinburgh, buses are to stop at Old Dalkeith Road (for Edinburgh Royal Infirmary), Cameron Toll...etc etc"

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/cy/request/24014/response/61183/attach/2/0775%20001.pdf