West Midlands Trains 172/2, 172/3 Refurb

[Spirit555]

I have been told that a WMT 172 went to Ilford for internal refurb from Tyseley on Saturday, headcode 5Q50.

Does anyone
have any details of the unit and possibly the extent of the refurb to take place.

Mark

 

[59CosG95]

I have been told that a WMT 172 went to Ilford for internal refurb from Tyseley on Saturday, headcode 5Q50.

Does anyone
have any details of the unit and possibly the extent of the refurb to take place.

Mark

172214 was the unit; C6 overhaul and full interior refit to the standard of the ex-LO 172/0s is what will happen in turn to each 172/2 and 172/3.

 

[adrock1976]

I was thinking that in the future that if they were to go in pairs, would there be a possibility of one of the driving cabs in both 333 and 338 being swapped so as to partner their original centre and opposite driving cab?

I seem to remember that it was these two sets that have the mismatched cab ends at one end of the train.

 

[59CosG95]

I was thinking that in the future that if they were to go in pairs, would there be a possibility of one of the driving cabs in both 333 and 338 being swapped so as to partner their original centre and opposite driving cab?

I seem to remember that it was these two sets that have the mismatched cab ends at one end of the train.

Seems likely.

 

[Spirit555]

172214 was the unit; C6 overhaul and full interior refit to the standard of the ex-LO 172/0s is what will happen in turn to each 172/2 and 172/3.

Thanks for the update, much appreciated, Does this refurb include Wi-Fi and charge points. I can't recall seeing any on the 172/0's.

Mark

 

[sd0733]

I was thinking that in the future that if they were to go in pairs, would there be a possibility of one of the driving cabs in both 333 and 338 being swapped so as to partner their original centre and opposite driving cab?

I seem to remember that it was these two sets that have the mismatched cab ends at one end of the train.

It could be done but personally I'd be suprised if it did happen, operationally it makes no difference To the use of the sets and by now they are likely at different points in the overhaul cycles which to rematch them up could mean prematurely replacing components or taking a set out twice while the other vehicles are done separately.
AFAIK both sets are correctly formed as in a 503xx-563xx-793xx vehicle in each so they run just fine as they are. There are also 6 mis-matched 350s in the fleet some having been mixed for almost 15 years with one unit having coaches from 3 different sets but a lot of the time it's just simpler to.leave alone is they work.

 

[CosherB]

I was thinking that in the future that if they were to go in pairs, would there be a possibility of one of the driving cabs in both 333 and 338 being swapped so as to partner their original centre and opposite driving cab?

I seem to remember that it was these two sets that have the mismatched cab ends at one end of the train.

What cost benefit or operational advantage does that achieve?

 

[xc170]

Of all the current fleet refurbs going on, I'd say the 172's are the least in need of a refurb, they still look quite smart inside.

 

[59CosG95]

Of all the current fleet refurbs going on, I'd say the 172's are the least in need of a refurb, they still look quite smart inside.

The visit to Ilford is much more structural; being a C6 overhaul, any bodywork repairs that need to be undertaken will also be done. The interior refresh is just a bonus.

 

[xc170]

The visit to Ilford is much more structural; being a C6 overhaul, any bodywork repairs that need to be undertaken will also be done. The interior refresh is just a bonus.

Bodywork repairs to the bodywork that has just been repainted/vinyled into WMT livery?

 

[59CosG95]

Bodywork repairs to the bodywork that has just been repainted/vinyled into WMT livery?

I assume it'll mainly be below solebar level - you'd be hard pushed to find any paint down there!

 

[newtownmgr]

I was thinking that in the future that if they were to go in pairs, would there be a possibility of one of the driving cabs in both 333 and 338 being swapped so as to partner their original centre and opposite driving cab?
I seem to remember that it was these two sets that have the mismatched cab ends at one end of the train.

Both sets are registered with Network Rail, the Leasing companies etc in their current formations. If they weren’t they would have been changed back at the end of the LM franchise. Unlikely to be changed now.

 

[BSWTECHNICIAN]

I was thinking that in the future that if they were to go in pairs, would there be a possibility of one of the driving cabs in both 333 and 338 being swapped so as to partner their original centre and opposite driving cab?

I seem to remember that it was these two sets that have the mismatched cab ends at one end of the train.

They wont put these back together as the milages for exams will be out off sync