What does 'thrash' mean?

[60163]

Some self-observed thrash at Crewe - as one punter quips, 'That's what we call putting on a show, I think...'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ADygVj4jRY

 

[CC 72100]

The BB67400s in France tend to be quite thrashy - although this video is a few years out of date now as they don't operate on the Provins line, they still put in a good shift on two rush hour commuter services out of Paris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgBECBDYSoA&list=PLOB-lHi0MYoZBbL9Si2tou45qRuNKE5t7

Equally loud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cop0NW70yL8

 

[hassaanhc]

Hey mate, don't worry about it. (I'm sure you aren't, ha ha). Just enjoy it. When you get a bit older you will do exactly what I am doing, perhaps, and tell people what it used to be like. As long as you are having fun (and not harming anyone) that is all that matters.

I had a watch+listen, I see what you mean http://youtu.be/6v47Hsixqw4. At first I thought it sounded very similar to the "Thumpers" that ran to Uckfield but then I found both were built by English Electric around the same time .
Thanks, I'm sure the future generations will enjoy, and much loathed new stock these days will suddenly be preferred (thanks to the "old=good, new=bad mentality :P).

 

[Whistler40145]

Also, to have decent thrash, wet rails and a 37 are a good combination.

 

[Darandio]

Put it this way I can often get more thrash out of a 142 at 5mph than I have seen some drivers get out of a Class 60 (!) WITH 2600 Tones of iron ore behind it (!!) with an unimaginative driver who only decided to coast past his audience of 40 spotters at Barnetby/Wrawby Jn.

It's all about driving techniques and having a high powered machine on a heavy loud means nothing if you only coast past trainspotters, if it was me I'd be aiming to "please my audience" and give the best thrash possible.

And I thought these trains were sent out to move commodities around the country. Now I realise that these trains are sent out to appease an audience. Thanks.

I can just imagine you now, stood on a platform end waving your arms incessantly at every service that approaches and becoming irate when the train goes coasting past. Serious issues.

 

[fowler9]

I had a watch+listen, I see what you mean http://youtu.be/6v47Hsixqw4. At first I thought it sounded very similar to the "Thumpers" that ran to Uckfield but then I found both were built by English Electric around the same time .
Thanks, I'm sure the future generations will enjoy, and much loathed new stock these days will suddenly be preferred (thanks to the "old=good, new=bad mentality :P).

Ha ha, cracking video clip. That is what thrash means.

 

[Strathclyder]

I'd only like to imagine what I'd be capable of if you gave me a loco like a Class 37 and mainline speeds.

If anybody would be stupid enough to do such a thing, then yes. Sadly, this is the real world, not some jumped up fantasy.

 

[Whistler40145]

God help any 37!

 

[Beveridges]

Also, to have decent thrash, wet rails and a 37 are a good combination

Driving technique is most important and can 'at least' triple the amount of thrash.

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Quite - and using more power than necessary also wastes fuel (an expensive commodity these days - maybe Beveridges' employers should charge him for the excess fuel costs for each 'thrash' ?

Considering the amount of fuel that gets spilled when fuelling trains due to old knackered equipment, the amount of fuel "wasted" from the occasional good thrash is negligible.

Some self-observed thrash at Crewe - as one punter quips, 'That's what we call putting on a show, I think...'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ADygVj4jRY

That driver is obviously trying to please his audience but that's not exactly hard when you've got four clagworthy 37's all multi'ed up...

 

[CosherB]

Driving technique is most important and can 'at least' triple the amount of thrash

or maybe it's just a fevered imagination ..... wouldn't know how to thrash the skin off a rice pudding!

 

[Whistler40145]

Beveridges, I expect it's quite an art to get the most thrash out of a loco & some drivers enjoy providing some entertainment.

 

[Beveridges]

Beveridges, I expect it's quite an art to get the most thrash out of a loco

Certainly is to get the most out of a 2nd gen DMU with a 5mph speed limit... you wouldn't believe the amount of clag I've had out of some of the more demic units...

If I was a loco driver I'd certainly be able to 'entertain' the spotters.

 

[Whistler40145]

Those 37s on the Blackpool to Man Vic/Liverpool were good for thrash, plus the odd smoking 31!

 

[Beveridges]

Those 37s on the Blackpool to Man Vic/Liverpool were good for thrash, plus the odd smoking 31!

Oh yes I remember those in fact it was those that got me into trains in the first place.

 

[Whistler40145]

Me too, as it's my local line.

 

[Cheshire Rover]

Being of a certain age and an enthusiast in my youth I remember Class 20, 37,40, 50 and 55 to be the most prolific locos for good thrash. Of course, Class 43 with Valenta engines were also excellent.

 

[Beveridges]

Being of a certain age and an enthusiast in my youth I remember Class 20, 37,40, 50 and 55 to be the most prolific locos for good thrash.

Class 56's were excellent as well.

 

[Rugd1022]

Old school thrash, courtesy of D1033 'Western Trooper'...

 

[Strat-tastic]

Old school thrash, courtesy of D1033 'Western Trooper'...

Smoking like a trooper

 

[Strathclyder]

Class 56's were excellent as well.

Indeed they were/are:
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[Johnnie2Sheds]

I think this is the answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQu8LNdg8C8

Or possibly this around the 2 minute mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVGMjBBINdU

 

[fishquinn]

How about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTKRAeiV_KQ

I was front coach and you can (faintly if you have good eyesight) see me hanging out of the window on departure.

 

[Minilad]

How about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTKRAeiV_KQ

I was front coach and you can (faintly if you have good eyesight) see me hanging out of the window on departure.

Duffs don't thrash. They strum

 

[Beveridges]

For real thrash it had to be 2x Slugs on a heavy load. Monstrous amounts of noise and clag. Especially if one (or both) was an unsilenced Ruston type. I noticed that they were louder than the 1x 60 that replaced them and they probably clagged more as well. 60's aren't bad for thrash either but they're not as good as the slugs that they replaced.

 

[37038]

A few of my YouTube favourites:

37717 Lickey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAT6VtnPNV8
37405 Ystrad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg01PIV3Mps
50026 Eastleigh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex4HAZEQ4UQ
55009 Berwick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my2v4Y_5Nvw
D1015 Newton Abbot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQu8LNdg8C8

And something un-train related but still my favourite video. If you like maybach (and WW2) then look here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1sGzIX_mqo

Thanks

 

[fishquinn]

Duffs don't thrash. They strum

Brush. And they do thrash.

 

[Nevillehill]

Listen to a Class 37 and you'll know what thrash is.

proper engines HELL FIRE !!!!!!!

they will be asking what My lords means next.

 

[Rugd1022]

Another salvo from the WR...

 

[ac6000cw]

Duffs don't thrash. They strum

I agree - and what was on the video is just normal, as those of us who grew up with them (and 45s/46s) can testify

(I still have an image of a full-throttle from standstill '45/46' departure from New Street 40 years ago etched into my brain - what a show it was.....47's were too delicate to take that sort of abuse)

....and if you want some alternative 'thrash', try these - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLIg-qMaCdE and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJjJPEGV22c - no turbos, no silencers, just full-throttle EMD 567-series two-stroke power and smoke

 

[fishquinn]

I agree - and what was on the video is just normal, as those of us who grew up with them (and 45s/46s) can testify

My dad has witnessed a class 47/8 on a VXC send fire as clag. He was on a different 47 tour and the 'twin' was about to leave and when it did the clag went from black to blacker to orange to red and it then took off like a shot.