what have people pulled with their Hornby 60?

[truckman060473]

when bachmann released the all wheel drive locos they were quite amazing what they could haul. but that hornby 60 is something else. i gathered together a load of spare rail and set up a basic large oval going right around my spare room. using long straights and R628 large radius track (16 required for half circle) so the curve wasn't sharp. the 60 started off with 15 iron ore type bogie wagons. did not bother it. i have a large number of old playworn bolsover type trucks and i filled these with stone chipping loads. there were 35 of these behind the others and the 60 was going strong! the other rolling stock i had was put on until the loco was nearly catching the last wagon!!!!! in all truth this loco is beyond belief what it can pull. taking the loco off the track i coupled up a Bachmann 66 instead. all 12 wheels wheelslipping. could not move it. call me mad to do this test but it wasn't half entertaining!!

 

[90019]

At a friend's house, we had an old Lima 47 hauling about 45 mixed wagons (from small tankers through log wagons to gresley coaches).

Unfortunately, the track went round a rather awkward bit of the attic, which was hard to get to and somewhat unsurprisingly, derailed there.

 

[4SRKT]

I've got a Bachmann class 20 (which I got for a fiver as part of a load of unidentified stock the returns department at work was selling off!!), and I got it hauling 3 Hornby Pullman cars, 3 Hornby-Dublo tinplate carriages, 1 Hornby-Dublo super detail coach, and 4 Hornby-Dublo super-detail wagons. Lots of heavy zinc and tinplate steel in there and it managed it without a flinch. In contrast, the Hornby West Country class that I got with the Pullmans (again from work, for £25 this time) couldn't manage more than the Pullmans, the Super Detail coach and one of the tinplates.

The reason for this mixture of stock is that I have a lot of Hornby-Dublo stuff that I collected when I was a teenager. I've only just started with this new-fangled 2-rail stuff!

 

[960012]

I wonder if the 60 could pull a person?? I dont mean a full grown human but a small child maybe? Ive had my tiny 3 1/2 inch gauge london tram pull me and that only has 2 tiny 12V DC motors

 

[truckman060473]

if the child was on a wheeled vehicle with narrow hard tyres for low friction and ball raced wheels on a smooth floor it is a possibility!!! if it pulled any harder the 60 may pull its own NEM hook out of its pocket!

 

[960012]

Yer, thats the problem heljan had with the 33 for a while it kept pulling the couplings out!

The bet Haulage test ive done was my Hornby Q1 on 21 Coaches!! and also my friends Hornby N2, which i put a brass bar in the front off, and it will now pull 13 coaches instead of 6!

 

[hairyhandedfool]

One of my 60s has successfullly hauled 12 Bachmann JGAs up a 10ft long 1:30 gradient with a little slippage.

 

[truckman060473]

don't have this wagon type. are they very heavy or loaded with something? unless it is your slope, which, at a bit worse than the Lickey incline (1 in 37) can stop a powerful loco like the 60 i almost can't believe it didn't pull way more than that for you. the room i tried it in wasn't exactly level all round but it was pulling way way more than a real life 60 would at over 55 wagons - most loaded.

 

[Vulcan]

I found this on Youtube, a hornby 50 pulling 48 Mk3s. Has to be seen to be believed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86iGiwsv8Wo

 

[truckman060473]

yeah not surprising. if the wheels on the coaches are good (some lima ones in good condition are exceptionally free running), then the 50, which i don't have, probably has the same all wheel drive/heavy chassis as the 60 so it will pull more than the real loco ever could in any coach/freight situation!

 

[hairyhandedfool]

don't have this wagon type. are they very heavy or loaded with something? unless it is your slope, which, at a bit worse than the Lickey incline (1 in 37) can stop a powerful loco like the 60 i almost can't believe it didn't pull way more than that for you. the room i tried it in wasn't exactly level all round but it was pulling way way more than a real life 60 would at over 55 wagons - most loaded.

I think they weight more than a Lima mk3 coach. I have never had cause to use more than 12, but that is the heaviest train I have required it to pull. By a little slippage I mean that it slows noticeably from top speed as it rises up the gradient rather than coming to a halt.

 

[truckman060473]

nice pic and i have seen them before but i haven't got them coz they are very expensive to make a long train with. i assume they are open topped and can be filled with sand or whatever load you fancy? must be not far off £200 for the rake of 12 you have. trouble is with me i like the trains to be long and i'd need to spend £500 on the amount of wagons i'd like to haul! i missed a deal on ebay other week. about £104 got you a bachmann 37 as new and 17 HEA coal hoppers. that's a good price for a reasonably long train

 

[O L Leigh]

I found this on Youtube, a hornby 50 pulling 48 Mk3s...

...downhill.

O L Leigh

 

[hairyhandedfool]

nice pic and i have seen them before but i haven't got them coz they are very expensive to make a long train with. i assume they are open topped and can be filled with sand or whatever load you fancy? must be not far off £200 for the rake of 12 you have. trouble is with me i like the trains to be long and i'd need to spend £500 on the amount of wagons i'd like to haul!....

A little over £200, the pic is just one I plundered from the interweb (for quickness), mine are the Tilcon ones with a set of roof mounted doors that are moulded shut. Here's a low quality video of the wagons in the not-so-capable hands of two Lima 66s.

 

[truckman060473]

sealed up eh? bit of a shame they can't be filled. the mineral wagons i tried the long 55 wagon pull with just had to have stone chippings in to keep them on the rails. like i said the 60 has a relentless tractive effort and it has pulled 10 wagons off the track before on a 3rd radius curve, which is why i used R628 curves for the test. by the way these are a great piece of track. when coaching stock goes round it looks good and much much less fake than going round 3rd rad, which is an absurdly sharp curve when compared to the real railways.

 

[Vulcan]

...downhill.

O L Leigh

Doesn't look that downhill to me, looks more like its stretching all the way round the layout to me.
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Correction: Just rechecked the video and your right. What a con, don't listen to me.

 

[royaloak]

don't listen to me.

Sorry, did you say something?

 

[Vulcan]

who said this?