What is the vandalism that caused the 8.07 Guildford to Waterloo to be cancelled?

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  1. infobleep

    infobleep Established Member

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    The 8.07 Guildford to Waterloo was cancelled today due to vandalism.

    Does anyone know what that was. It's made up I believe of 8x455 coaches and 2x456 coaches.
     
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  3. HarleyDavidson

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    Because the plebs of Guildford graffitied it with two large F**K YOU So much on the side of it.
     
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    Wouldn't have phased Thameslink.
     
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    Official line being "Graffiti attack that contained words of an offensive nature" :lol:
     
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    Thanks for the replies. Are the coaches stabled at Guildford or elsewhere?

    If the coaches are stabled on a siding within public view, do they cover up the words or leave them in full view?

    Perhaps they will find the people responsible as they caused some people on the Cobham line to have an hours gap between services. Also the 8.36 was short formed of just 4 carriages today due to earlier train faults.
     
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    What kind of sick person would write such awful and hurtful things such as "South West Trains" on the side of the rolling stock?

    ;)
     
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    Stored in the down sidings at Guildford, this is the umpteenth graffiti attack on stock stored in there.

    They were told not to reinstate the sidings, because of vandalism, did they listen? No, it has cost them a small fortune in cancellations & repairs/cleaning. :roll:
     
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    And there was me thinking Guildford was posh!
     
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    I'm surprised they don't have CCTV there to catch them.

    I thought this wasn't the first time it had happened. No doubt it won't be the last.

    The station itself is open until 1.30am but is staffed 25 hours. I suppose it's to far away to hear anything from the sidings.
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    The houses are not so cheap but that makes no difference it seems. People can live anywhere and graffiti the trains. Wonder what they do during the day?
     
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    They have CCTV on a couple of building nearby, however the fencing on the walking route is dilapidated and easy to circumvent. There are also 3 security gates en route too, however if you circumvent the fence, they just cut across the tracks and straight into the sidings.

    The trains have FFCCTV but they don't seem to have caught them as yet. So the vandalism will continue indefinitely and so will the cancellations. The only ways to stop them is to put a security fence all around the sidings and install discreet CCTV, but will SWT pay for that? I doubt it.

    The cheapest method is to stop berthing trains in there altogether, however that means that they'll have spent well over £1m for nowt, but you have to balance that against the cost of the amount of damage caused & the cost of the ensuing delays & cancellations.
     
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    I know the railways run on their own time but didn't know they'd manged to get an extra hour in every day...
     
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    Does the CCTV need to be discrete? In plenty of stations I see CCTV cameras which are not discretely placed.

    I guess they could vandalise the CCTV camera but perhaps in doing so they would be spotted.
     
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    To catch this scum, you need to use surreptitious methods, be very careful and patient and even possibly set a "Honey Trap" to catch them.
     
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    Not very proactive thinking on the part of the TOC someone sprayed names and slogans on my back fence ( Footpath at back ) I got a spray can black from the £1 shop and over sprayed the letters so it was just a load of squares meaning nothing
    The train Co could have done that in about 10 mins and kept the train in service and sorted it after the rush hour
     
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    Who would have done it?
     
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    This is the problem, back in the days of BR if the station staff noticed it prior to the station opening, then they would have spent time cleaning so that the train is presentable.

    Now station staff are not allowed to do anything like that anymore.
     
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    On another thread about non-functioning toilets, someone asked rhetorically whether we'd prefer a train to run, or to be cancelled due to a lack of a bog.

    On a similar note, I think I'd prefer a train to run rather than be cancelled due to some naughty words,
     
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    But it wasn't in the station. The only person who would have seen it was the driver as he/she went to prepare the train for its first trip a few minutes later.
     
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    The down carriage sidings are pretty out the way at Guildford too, the walking route to the sidings is well known to be a pain. The stock would have been cleaned early evening, and is then left alone out of sight until early morning when it's brought back out.
     
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    I personally would agree with you there...

    But unfortunately, the fear of attracting an angry letter (if lucky to SWT customer service, if unlucky to the Daily Mail) from "Disgusted of Hinchley Wood" seems to hold more sway...
     
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    I am most surprised to learn that a 25 hour clock applies in Guildford...:shock:
     
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    Yes. It's located on the planet Zarg.

    There are some real weirdo's down there, with tails, webbed hands & green eyes! :lol: And that's just the station staff. ;)
     
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    So that explains why it keeps getting vandalised. It sat weirdos with webbed hands!
     
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    You think the station staff are bad, we won't talk about the train crew! ;)
     
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    Doesn't the railway actually have trains timetabled for 24nn? Working timetables I'd assume only.
     
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