What is your favorite Desiro?

[class 313]

I don't see whats funny :roll:

Seems like a pretty good asumption tbh. Considering Desiros are newer :roll:

Ive heard it from drivers them selvs as evan the drivers prefer 321s as 321s are more reliable. You cant argue with that. Also 321s do also have tables. And first class on 321s have 442 seats.

ALSO

Or more correctly all desiros except 450s have 2 + 2 seating

well 350s are 450s just with a panto so they have the same inside

 

[86242]

well 350s are 450s just with a panto so they have the same inside

350s have 2+2 seating UNLIKE 450s which have 3+2 seating...

 

[Ascot]

350s have that special touch to them though that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy . Everyone at me moms work love the new trains and hate them "old purple ones and especially the cakky green ones" so it's all a matter on what area i guess or etc.. Remember, Marston Green used to have 321s regulary back in the days.

And yeah 350s still got the wooden paddle from the 450s incase they need to be rowed in water.

 

[class 313]

Lol ascot!

but still 321s are better. More reliable, better seats, better first class, better to drive, look better.

 

[Tom]

And you can say all of that with personal experience?

 

[Ascot]

And you can say all of that with personal experience?

i can yes, the green ones are cakky and the paddle is in the cab still etc..

 

[class 313]

Apart from driving a 321 then yes. But drivers have told me they prefer 321s.

Also drivers prefere 319s over 377s on the WLL, seems like the older the better for the drivers

 

[87015]

Also drivers prefere 319s over 377s on the WLL, seems like the older the better for the drivers

That'd be the cranks among the staff!

I know BY did have the 321 fleet as the most reliable EMU fleet in the country a few years back, but it has dropped since the 350 introduction, not due to unit problems, but the depot has been cut back, staffing disputes and general morale nosedive.....quality management...

I still maintain 350s are good units, but unsuitable for some of the services they work. Gotta count that noise against em, but if lightly loaded they are miles ahead of a 321, but the crank in me says i'll have a 321 please!

 

[class 313]

hehe good man

but 321s are STILL the most reliable EMU around though and then 319s quickly follow.

 

[Tom]

Afraid not Tom.

Class 357s are the most reliable.

Class 357 'Electrostar' (Overhead Pickup):

• Unit miles: 482,499
• MPC P7 05/06: 48,250

Class 321 'Dusty Bin' (Overhead Pickup):

• Unit miles: 339,955
• MPC P7 05/06: 33,996

Class 159s, 442s, 350s then ...

Class 319 (Thameslink) (DualVoltage):

• Unit miles: 253,359
• MPC P7 05/06: 19,489

 

[87015]

357s are really the most reliable EMU?? I'd never have guessed, when they were introduced they were utterly useless! It took what seemed like year for them to be introduced, and then for a good few months they were falling down all over the show, and were even banned during the rush hour for some time...Around 1500 they were all banished to Shoeburyness CS and out came the 310s!

Shows what progress can be made...
Is there a URL for those figures, i wouldnt mind having a nose at other classes...

 

[Ascot]

Where you get that info from Tom, looks like a nice database?

 

[yorkie]

I don't see whats funny :roll:

Seems like a pretty good asumption tbh. Considering Desiros are newer :roll:

Assumptions are not much use though, as anyone can assume anything - doesn't make it true.

And no, not necessarily.

Where you get that info from Tom, looks like a nice database?

Modern Railways is the best source for that sort of info.

 

[Death]

Hmmmm...
Well, I voted for the 444 as out of all the Desiros I've used so far I find the 444 to be the most comfortable...Well, I'm a mere 5'7" in height, yet even I can't find room to stretch in a 450!

Of course, before reading and voting on this thread, I wasn't aware that Siemens had created a Diesel version...Indeed, I have to confess to thinking that the Desiro was a bespoke design for SWT! :eek:

Of course, the Sprinter family whips the Desiro for accelleration and comfort every time. More to the point, they don't have that f*?$ing ANNOYING safety klaxon going off whenever the train's moving at less than 15mph either!

Farewell...
>> Death <<

 

[Richard]

to be honest i like all the Desiro trains and there all my favourite but its very hard for me to choose,

Regards,

 

[David]

Please don't dig threads up where the last post was more than a couple of months ago.