You know, I have never actually heard a passenger onboard a Pacer complain about one, and I've been on plenty.
Most Northern Rail users know what to expect before they board the Pacer, so the poor conditions aren't a surprise. I've heard plenty of people sigh or groan when a Pacer pulls in.
The West Country news found plenty of people to complain about Pacers when FGW subleased some 142s.
I have never noticed the doors to be draughty
Lucky you who didn't have to do a journey on a Pacer with the Pacer travelling at 70+mph when the exterior temperature was -12oC. Ice was forming on the inside of the train. The 150s and 156s coped fine on the same line.
They only provide sub-par rides on sub-par track
Oh dear. I didn't know the WCML and ECML were the only lines in the North without sub-par track and then on the WCML and ECML when you get a 125mph train going in the other direction you can really feel a force on a Pacer.
indeed 144 seating I find to be some of the best around
The seating is good but the leg room is abysmal.
You also forget that not everywhere has modern buses; and indeed not everyone can afford them over trains!
British Leyland buses built in the 1970s contained the same type of seating, so even if old buses turn up they've hardly got inferior seating.
indeed not everyone can afford them over trains!
What's wrong with walking short distances? Trains are generally more expensive, except on shorter distances where you may be able to get a £3 off-peak return fare to a station 2 miles away but the bus will cost you £1.90 single.
People need to stop the Pacer ranting now, it's very hyperbolic and boring.
It's only going to stop completely when Pacers are withdrawn. They could be moved to shorter services but that'll just moved where the complaints come from. I can't see 142s replacing 172s on Gospel Oak to Barking would go down well even though it's a more suitable Pacer route than Manchester Victoria to Leeds/Selby via Halifax.