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What's supposed to happen if there's unscheduled bustitution and you have a bike?
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That's the TOC's problem. Otherwise you're basically saying its a lottery whether someone is actually going to get where theyre going, even if they have checked out any bike restrictions beforehand. That amounts to a virtual ban on bikes as far as I can see.
What if they don't have the money for a taxi?
Nym
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Call a minibus...
If it's a substitution for something that can normally carry bikes, then they should be carried, the same for anything that would normally be carried but can't be on a coach.
If it's always a bus, or a planned engineering work then sod em, provided theres enough notice.
If it's a substitution for something that can normally carry bikes, then they should be carried, the same for anything that would normally be carried but can't be on a coach.
If it's always a bus, or a planned engineering work then sod em, provided theres enough notice.
Bigger taxi!
Seriously though, it's happened with me once. Bustitution Crewe - Liverpool, coach wouldn't take it. Taxi turned up, was too small. Bigger taxi turned up (Mercedes Vito) - sorted.
And he took me home as well!
I suppose it all depends where and when you get stuck. There's about 6 taxis in total in this town, one of which is a London-style cab, and two MPVs. They do a lot of airport runs, so you need to book about a day in advance to be guaranteed a pick-up.
You can get one from the next town along, of course, but that'll cost you time and money...
You can get one from the next town along, of course, but that'll cost you time and money...
Well, in my case, it's an old version of one of these:
http://www.popiel.co.uk/en/gazelle-chamonix-excellent-t8.html
To be fair, I do have friends who wouldn't get their leg over the crossbar.
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I agree, most places have taxi minibuses available, or hackney cabs.
I once got sent from Derby - Loughborough at TOC expense in a hackney cab with my road bike.
On the subject of negotiating with rail replacement coach drivers.. it helps if your bike is clean.... (National Express drivers expect folding bikes to be in a bag/box for similar reasons). However I've noticed that Arriva now use buses rather than coaches which screws any chance of negotiating on with a full size bike.
In general I would encourage cycle users to join their local cycle campaign to lobby collectively for better facilities for cyclists, our local group always sends a representative to TOC stakeholder meetings
see http://www.cyclenation.org.uk/
or if there isn't one, the ctc: http://ctc.org.uk/
Can't believe it took 42 posts! I'm actually quite impressed.
Oh go on, I could do with a laugh.
Why not go on to mention how we cycle on the pavements and jump lights, too? Oh, and don't pay "road tax". That's always a good one.
Oh, and it's very flattering, but I'm not the son of god.
Road tax, nah
Bikes on pavements = issue
Ive seen people load bikes on trains and block carriages and vestibules, if you want a bike on a train then reserve and pay for a reservation, its oversized luggage after all.
Turn up at the airport and see what they say.
Bikes on pavements = issue
Ive seen people load bikes on trains and block carriages and vestibules, if you want a bike on a train then reserve and pay for a reservation, its oversized luggage after all.
Turn up at the airport and see what they say.
I am not anti-cycling, or else I couldn't cycle myself (albeit rarely and never on a train), but I do have issues with full sized bikes on trains - mostly with inconsiderate owners who won't move them for others.
Folding bikes are fine, and if they can replace a car at one or both ends, then what's the harm?
Jumping lights - I have a big problem with that, as well as riding fast on pavements. A massive problem in London, less so elsewhere - but it ****es me off as both a cyclist but more often as a pedestrian.
Another issue, as a motorist, is the many cyclists that now ride the wrong way down one way streets and seem not in the slightest bit bothered about motorists not expecting to encounter them, or even pedestrians that may not look (yes, they should but that's still no excuse).
Despite my moans against a sizeable number of arrogant cyclists, if a train is suddenly replaced with a bus and no notice was given, the TOC should find a way to transport it or - if accepted by the bike owner - looked after to be collected the next day (e.g a commuter who may be happy with that arrangement).
Folding bikes are fine, and if they can replace a car at one or both ends, then what's the harm?
Jumping lights - I have a big problem with that, as well as riding fast on pavements. A massive problem in London, less so elsewhere - but it ****es me off as both a cyclist but more often as a pedestrian.
Another issue, as a motorist, is the many cyclists that now ride the wrong way down one way streets and seem not in the slightest bit bothered about motorists not expecting to encounter them, or even pedestrians that may not look (yes, they should but that's still no excuse).
Despite my moans against a sizeable number of arrogant cyclists, if a train is suddenly replaced with a bus and no notice was given, the TOC should find a way to transport it or - if accepted by the bike owner - looked after to be collected the next day (e.g a commuter who may be happy with that arrangement).
Despite this, several councils seem to have a particular love of creating "shared use" paths - pavements where you're directed to cycle. Generally very badly signed at that. Which seems foolish.
But I agree, cyclists on busy pavements, with disregard to pedestrians, is downright wrong.
Well, surely that's a case for peak time restrictions (which exist) or clearly stating where you can store a bike (which rarely exists). In my case, I usually travel with my bike on unreservable 8-car trains, against the flow, running at I'd guess around 10% capacity, with the bike stored against tip-up seats. Can't see the problem, really.
Well, you have to part-deflate the tyres, remove the pedals and turn the handlebars so they're in line with the frame. Then you check it in as any other sporting equipment, usually included in your luggage allowance.
DaveNewcastle
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Pay whom? At what tariff?
What has an airport got to do with the topic? Are there rail replacement - plane services?
Cyclists are a pain in the arse - cycling on pavements, jumping lights, no lights on the bike then claiming hardship
Want a bike on the train then book a reservation, not see your arse when you cant just throw it on anyway
Cyclists are on a par with vegans and those with a wheat allergy.
Want a bike on the train then book a reservation, not see your arse when you cant just throw it on anyway
Cyclists are on a par with vegans and those with a wheat allergy.
It's our own Poundshop Jeremy Clarkson!
Let me know how to book a reservation on a First Capital Connect train.
Inconsiderate idiots are inconsiderate idiots no matter their transport of choice, whether it's a light-jumping cyclist, a speedophile motorist, a won't-stop-for-anyone pedestrian or a paid-up, feet-on-seats-and-loud-music-blaring train passenger.
You do seem a little irritable, though. Have you considered being tested for coeliac disease?
Cliche cliche cliche cliche clich and generally utter, rabid, rubbish.
They do seem to have a get out with the NRCOC. They could actually get the bike sent on. Royal Mail Sameday claim to make 98% of pickups within 1 hour, and the smallest vehicle they send is a small van. It would be pricey, but not necessarily that much more than a walk up fare for a similar journey.
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Yes, I recall someone having a whinge at me in the canteen recently about cyclists on pavements, then later on in the conversation he was bragging about doing 140 mph through Milton Keynes....
I just dont get why some people in this country have such a big problem with cyclists? is it a cover for some inner inadequacy?
^This.
It's not like cyclists are the only ones that do naughty things; and if they do it's usually them who is likely to come off worst. A far bigger problem is inept drivers, who when they do something wrong someone is likely to end up dead. Only recently I was nearly run over on a zebra crossing by a driver who wasn't paying attention and failed to stop when the other lane had (it was 2 lanes each way). :roll:
I am not against cyclists, but I have a big problem with the ones that break the law - just like anyone that blatantly shows a disregard for laws.
Why should some cyclists believe they're better than the rest of us (as if they know that someone on foot or in a car doesn't also cycle) and then decide that they know best - and so if they drive on a pavement, jump lights or go the wrong way down a one way street, they're in full control and perfectly safe (even possibly safer).
Like a motorist taking risks, it's all fine until something unexpected happens.
For example, why do people cycle along high streets on the pavement when they can't possibly know if someone is going to step out of a shop and straight into their path? This happened a year or two ago in Hatfield, when someone was hit at high speed coming out of Asda - and nearly died.
No need to justify their bad actions by saying other people are worse. That's irrelevant. I am sure there are many threads about bad motorists to comment on!
The thing, almost anywhere on the internet, as soon as cycling is mentioned, the same whines about the minoority (and it really is a minority, albeit sizeable) of idiots crop up, as if it is a problem that us reposnible cyclists can actually do anything about. The idiots seem to be used as a stick to beat those of us who aren't idiots with.
basically: What relevance does the fact that some cyclists ride without lights, along pavements and jump red lights have on the subject of carrying bikes on emergency rail replacement services? Answer- none whatsoever.
basically: What relevance does the fact that some cyclists ride without lights, along pavements and jump red lights have on the subject of carrying bikes on emergency rail replacement services? Answer- none whatsoever.
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