Whats wrong with 'plastic'?

[Guinness]

Another problem with plastic trains, you can't get as many bikes on them as older units

How many people take there bikes on trains though?

 

[TheSlash]

Did you know Cannon Street was the last time someone was killed in a MK1 coach?
But for new trains theres, Southall, Hatfield, Potters Bar, Selby, Ladbrook Grove, Newbury. Anyone think of anymore?

 

[TheSlash]

Another problem with plastic trains, you can't get as many bikes on them as older units

How many people take there bikes on trains though?

Quite alot actually. I used to ride my bike to Cosham station, put it on the train and goto Basingstoke where i'd get off and ride to work.
I used to put my bike on the train to London, or even just going into Portsmouth from Cosham. A high number of commuters used to put their bikes on the train, often it would be a squeeze to get mine on in the evening {bearing in mind the service was normally formed of 4 CIG}.
Then theres special events like the London to Brighton bike ride. I've caught the train from Portsmouth to London on the day this was happening, all services were booked 12 CIG and all 3 guards vans on all services were packed out.
GNER have a whole DVT to put bikes in, very good idea in my opinion

 

[AlexS]

Southall - HST Mk3, Hatfield - Mk4, Potters Bar - 365, Selby - Mk4, Ladbrook Grove - Mk3 HST, Newbury - HST Mk3

Can safely be said if a Mk1 was involved in any of them, the fatalities list would be far higher. Apart from Mark3 buffet cars, they seem to hold up remarkably well in a crash.

 

[TheSlash]

Apart from Mark3 buffet cars, they seem to hold up remarkably well in a crash.

Except Newbury

 

[Tom B]

Computers are excellent things. Trouble is people love wasting them on things like trains which do not need a computer. A driver is perfectly capable of pressing the "Door Open" button himself!!

Also there seems to be a lack of standardisation on new trains with different types of coupling for each manufacturer - but what about when you need to couple a locomotive or another MU up?

 

[TheSlash]

Computers are excellent things. Trouble is people love wasting them on things like trains which do not need a computer. A driver is perfectly capable of pressing the "Door Open" button himself!!

Also there seems to be a lack of standardisation on new trains with different types of coupling for each manufacturer - but what about when you need to couple a locomotive or another MU up?

Exactly what i think, glad someone else can see those 2 problems

 

[Guinness]

Computers are excellent things. Trouble is people love wasting them on things like trains which do not need a computer. A driver is perfectly capable of pressing the "Door Open" button himself!!

Also there seems to be a lack of standardisation on new trains with different types of coupling for each manufacturer - but what about when you need to couple a locomotive or another MU up?

I agree with the Computer part Tom

The 170s all have the same coupling (With a couple of Exceptions IIRC) and is also capable of coupling with Pacers, Sprinters and of course themselfs - Although this rarely happens.

 

[AlexS]

On Central I can think of plenty of times that it happens. Evening peak services in Birmingham quite often find 170s hitched up to 158s or 153s.

 

[yorkie]

Yes, 170s are standard (unlike some of the newer DMUs/EMUs! ).

In theory coupling a 158 or 170 to a 153 should slow it down to 75mph, right?

But the other day our 158 + 153 combo was exceeding 75mph. :?

 

[heart-of-wessex]

158 + 150s happen sometimes, but the 158 can do 90 even if theres a 150 on it behind