When Are They Gonna Be Any Pendoleno Drags Into And From New Street Station ?

[LM Class 323]

When Are They Gonna Be Any Pendoleno Drags Into And From New Street Station ?

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Why would there be? New Street is electrified.

 

[CCF23]

When Are They Gonna Be Any Pendoleno Drags Into And From New Street Station ?

Whenever there is a power cut in the Birmingham area i imagine

 

[Dave R]

usually when there is a problem between new st and rugby. pendos are dragged from new st to nuneaton. couldn't say when though.

 

[oliverj8]

usually when there is a problem between new st and rugby. pendos are dragged from new st to nuneaton. couldn't say when though.

Not recently, they have been using Voyagers off the Birmingham - Scotland route and putting the Pendolinos off the London - Birmingham/Wolverhampton on that route.
So basically Pendolinos and Voyagers have swapped services from Birmingham, Pendos go north and Voyagers go south via Nuneaton. Hope this helps

 

[David]

With the lack of available 57/3s and the various farces that ensued last time there was drags between Nuneaton and New Street, I imagine it would be quicker and easier to send them upto Stafford and reverse there to Wolverhampton and Birmingham.

Probably never happen though, as it makes too much sense !

 

[matt]

I imagine it would be quicker and easier to send them upto Stafford and reverse there to Wolverhampton and Birmingham.

Probably never happen though, as it makes too much sense !

That has happened a few times before.

 

[oliverj8]

That has happened a few times before.

Haven't cross country done it before aswell?

 

[bluebottle]

Haven't cross country done it before aswell?

Cross country don't have any Pendolinos.

 

[thefab444]

I think Pendolino drags en masse are now dead, Virgin preferring to use 221s. Is there still the single booked drag to Holyhead on Saturdays?

 

[43034 The Black Horse]

I think Pendolino drags en masse are now dead, Virgin preferring to use 221s. Is there still the single booked drag to Holyhead on Saturdays?

Yep - Did it last Saturday. 309 out for 315 back

 

[oliverj8]

Cross country don't have any Pendolinos.

I meant go up to Stafford and turn back

 

[37401]

You'll know when a 57 is doing a drag in Brum because you'll see me going out for a pendo with my red pen (maybe)

 

[VirginTrainFreak]

lol and me obviously

 

[37401]

cough

 

[route:oxford]

When Pendolinos are dragged, does the 57 "Thunderbird" have to lead, or can the Pendolino act as a DVT with the loco pushing?

 

[Aictos]

When Pendolinos are dragged, does the 57 "Thunderbird" have to lead, or can the Pendolino act as a DVT with the loco pushing?

With the East Coast 91s, the Class 67 Thunderbirds are always at the leading end so I can only hazard a guess that it is the same with the 390s on the West Coast.

The only reason why the WSMR setup and the EWS Company Train is able to use a Class 67 to propel their train with the DVT leading is because of the various modifications made.

 

[Old Timer]

With the lack of available 57/3s and the various farces that ensued last time there was drags between Nuneaton and New Street, I imagine it would be quicker and easier to send them upto Stafford and reverse there to Wolverhampton and Birmingham.

Probably never happen though, as it makes too much sense !

During any midweek disruption, the EBW Wolves services run via the Trent to Stafford then back to Wolves and vice-versa.

The 03 past the hour Euston to New St turn-rounds are automatically cancelled.

Normal plan is for Coventry and International passengers to be bussed from Rugby, or via LM local services if Coventry is available.

New St passengers are either transferred at Nuneaton, but past expereince has indicated that they prefer to send them via Stafford. This is probably because of the limited capacity on the Leceister to Birminghams.

In the reverse, New St passengers are sent via Nuneaton on the next available to pick up the next stopping Up service, which is not always the diverted Wolves service !

Coventry passengers are offered via Leamington and Marylebone.

 

[matt]

When Pendolinos are dragged, does the 57 "Thunderbird" have to lead, or can the Pendolino act as a DVT with the loco pushing?

As far as I am aware the 57 has to lead.

 

[Old Timer]

When Pendolinos are dragged, does the 57 "Thunderbird" have to lead, or can the Pendolino act as a DVT with the loco pushing?

The 57s can only provide power for the on-board electrical and pneumatic services.

They were not intended to operate as surrogate P/P locos, bearing in mind the reason for their being provided is to rescue a failure.

 

[krus_aragon]

They were not intended to operate as surrogate P/P locos, bearing in mind the reason for their being provided is to rescue a failure.

And to drag a kitchen along the North Wales coast!