70014IronDuke
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I have some questions with regard to the North Yorks Moors Railway running services to and from Whitby vis-a-vis Northern Trains, if anyone knows, please.
1) Are the NYMR and NT treated as equals on the route?
I assume that would mean, if a train gets out of its path, then tough on that company if it then entails further delays while waiting for a path on the single line section - it's just too bad.
OTOH, it could be argued that the NYM trains are, essentially (?) tourist trains. Most folks on board won't mind too much if the train is 15-20 minutes late due to allowing a "normal and proper", but delayed, NT train priority for a path.
At the same time, this could lead to extra costs for the NYMR - both in crew time and higher running costs (steam engine standing idle) and potentially upsetting the NYMR timetable on its own sections of line.
2) Are tickets on the section between Grosmont and Whitby interchangeable - or are all trains operator-only tickets? In other words, if I go to Whitby and buy a ticket to Grosmont (say) - can I go on any train?
3) What happens if NT want to run more services, and allowing this would reduce, or even take up all, the paths used by NYM? Could the NYM block additional trains to Middlesbrough, if NT applied to run more trains, or would NT get priority?
Essentially, how does this all work out? If the NYMR is not treated as an equal TOC, maybe it is re-imbursed by lower track charges?
Kind of an intriguing situation.
1) Are the NYMR and NT treated as equals on the route?
I assume that would mean, if a train gets out of its path, then tough on that company if it then entails further delays while waiting for a path on the single line section - it's just too bad.
OTOH, it could be argued that the NYM trains are, essentially (?) tourist trains. Most folks on board won't mind too much if the train is 15-20 minutes late due to allowing a "normal and proper", but delayed, NT train priority for a path.
At the same time, this could lead to extra costs for the NYMR - both in crew time and higher running costs (steam engine standing idle) and potentially upsetting the NYMR timetable on its own sections of line.
2) Are tickets on the section between Grosmont and Whitby interchangeable - or are all trains operator-only tickets? In other words, if I go to Whitby and buy a ticket to Grosmont (say) - can I go on any train?
3) What happens if NT want to run more services, and allowing this would reduce, or even take up all, the paths used by NYM? Could the NYM block additional trains to Middlesbrough, if NT applied to run more trains, or would NT get priority?
Essentially, how does this all work out? If the NYMR is not treated as an equal TOC, maybe it is re-imbursed by lower track charges?
Kind of an intriguing situation.