Who gets a Con50 concession

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  1. Hellfire

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    There's a chap sitting opposite me on VT this morning whose ticket is endorsed CON50. I understand from one of RJ's informative posts that this indicates a 50% discount. However, I was wondering who the people are who are entitled to this and how they get it.
     
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    It's a disabled person without a railcard ,visually impared or wheelchair user on a day return
     
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    He doesn't appear to to have any disability and he's certainly not blind.
     
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    If he is a wheelchair user he should remain in his chair for the journey or if he is blind he would have to have a companion. His ticket also would only be a SDR.

    Methinks it's probably a 50% FIP done incorrectly.
     
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    Why would disabled people without a railcard get a larger discount than disabled people with a railcard?
     
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    My dad is partially sighted and he has a paperwork required to get a CON50 discount. He too doesn't APPEAR to have a disability and is not blind by definition either. Thankfully times have moved on and society accepts that there are many people who have disabilities that are not obvious, and this too applies to blind and partially sighted people.
     
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    Because there is a stricter eligibility for the disabled CON50 discount than the railcard.

    Further, the railcard discount is available on a wide variety of products whereas the disabled CON50 discount is limited to a small amount of single & returns.

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    Neither did my fiancée. I didn't have a clue when we were first going out, turns out she was blind in one eye. Since her vision deteriorated she is now registered as blind, which does not actually mean completely without sight, whatever the dictionary definition may be. Just because somebody does not appear disabled does not mean they aren't - and this includes visual impairments. How well somebody copes with their disability should not have a bearing on how disabled they are regarded.
     
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    I TOTALLY agree!

    Can I just check my dad has never used his CON 50 discount but with the summer coming up I think we might start using it and go on some days out. He is partially sighted and registered as such. Is it the card from the local council he needs to show? I hope we don't have any problems. He never uses his white stick or wears sun glasses, he looks just like someone with no sight issues on first glance.

    So, what will I need to show at the booking office? What do I ask for? Surely this is not the sort of thing the booking office would have a problem doing?

    What discounts can be obtained?

    On BRfares.com is it CONCESS 50% I enter in to look up fares?
     
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    They shouldn't do, though they might have to check which discount applies to which fare (the discount isn't very common ime).

    http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations_destinations/44965.aspx

    D50 (or Concess 50%) for 50% and D34 (or Concess 34%) for 34%.
     
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    In my experience a ticket office might find this difficult (that is, have to faff about looking things up) as they are fairly unusual, if not rare. This is because, generally, the person qualifying for the discount has a Disabled Railcard and the railcard discounted fares are usually cheaper.
     
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    Though we do have some irritatingly priced flows around here where the discounted anytime at 50% is cheaper than the off peak with 34% or railcard discounts. I usually just bang both fares in to check.
     
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    FasTIS is good for looking up such things as well. Tell it you've got a D50 and D34 and/or Disabled Railcard, hit ISSUE and it'll bring up all the fares for the flow, with the relevant discounts applied, in one hit so you can choose the most appropriate.

    So, for example, Amersham - Stoke Mandeville is £5.80 for a Day Return with a Disabled Railcard, but £4.40 with the 50% Concession, so it's cheaper to ignore the Railcard in that instance.
     
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