Unlike berth coach, lights in seated coach of sleeper trains are not dimmed or extinguished when the train is moving.
Is there any regulation barring the operator from doing so, to improve the sleeping quality of passengers?
Can't imagine that, given that the coach is a pretty new one.The lights on the Caledonian Sleeper seated coach are dimmed slightly after departure from Euston but they are still quite bright. This is why they give out eye masks.
In Mk2 days, they could set the lights to a half setting.
Quite the opposite, I'd say!Can't imagine that, given that the coach is a pretty new one.
They used to be dim on the Mk2s.If they can dim the light just like a plane does, that would be wonderful.
And, the seated coach is a bit too expensive, with price from 53 pounds to Highlands...Quite the opposite, I'd say!
They used to be dim on the Mk2s.
I'm not going to go seated sleeper overnight on a Mk5 but my expectation is that they will be too bright.
Not the best night's sleep you'll ever get but that is very reasonable to go a very long way!And, the seated coach is a bit too expensive, with price from 53 pounds to Highlands...
And, the seated coach is a bit too expensive, with price from 53 pounds to Highlands...
And, the seated coach is a bit too expensive, with price from 53 pounds to Highlands...
That is what I assumed too. Surely that is possible on a train?If they can dim the light just like a plane does, that would be wonderful.
Yes you could! But I agree its dirt cheap.It's not, it's dirt cheap. You couldn't go by coach for that.
Yes you could... quite easily for less than half the price if you travel Megabus. A service which has brand new coaches and of course the lights are dimmed very well during night travelIt's not, it's dirt cheap. You couldn't go by coach for that.
As I said,bright or floodlit. The dim is not dim.As stated in the Night Riviera thread, yes there are now regulations on lighting. Our train should be presented with lights on dim in coaches A and B, if not, tell the train manager.
I’ll bet that when ÖBB take delivery of their new NightJet stock the lighting will be of a suitable level. In other words: they will get it right rather than hiding behind standards as a reason not to do something.As stated in the Night Riviera thread, yes there are now regulations on lighting. Our train should be presented with lights on dim in coaches A and B, if not, tell the train manager.
Bang on. I've long given up on even having the illusion that TOCs or the DfT care about comfort.I’ll bet that when ÖBB take delivery of their new NightJet stock the lighting will be of a suitable level. In other words: they will get it right rather than hiding behind standards as a reason not to do something.
Yes you could... quite easily for less than half the price if you travel Megabus. A service which has brand new coaches and of course the lights are dimmed very well during night travel
Yes you could... quite easily for less than half the price if you travel Megabus. A service which has brand new coaches and of course the lights are dimmed very well during night travel
Coach is more uncomfortable compared to train. I took megabus in feb , felt jammed in
Megabus sleeper proved there isn't a premium market there, it's just budget so you need to cram them in.
No because it's a coach! That's a budget product, the premium "market" chooses the sleeper or flies!
Coach is more uncomfortable compared to train. I took megabus in feb , felt jammed in
To be honest, I'm not sure you'd feel any different if you took the refurbished Night Riviera sleeper either.
I always thought the old Mark 2E BUOs on the Caledonian Sleeper had it right: 2+1 layout and comfortable seats.To be honest, I'm not sure you'd feel any different if you took the refurbished Night Riviera sleeper either. The fact that the "day coaches" were refurbished to soak up some of the morning commuter traffic - leaving them with a layout as bad as some of the High Density Mk3s was an awful idea. Now that it isn't a Cornish stopper, I wouldn't mind seeing a more appropriate interior / seat ratio chosen, but as this is GWR I doubt that anything will happen.
There's a lot more room in a GWR Sleeper day coach than there are in many road coaches. Not to mention access to a toilet, food and a decent sized seat back table. I don't think GWR are about to spend more money refitting sleeper coaches having spent millions doing so within the last 5 years - if they did it'd be money that could be better spent elsewhere.To be honest, I'm not sure you'd feel any different if you took the refurbished Night Riviera sleeper either. The fact that the "day coaches" were refurbished to soak up some of the morning commuter traffic - leaving them with a layout as bad as some of the High Density Mk3s was an awful idea. Now that it isn't a Cornish stopper, I wouldn't mind seeing a more appropriate interior / seat ratio chosen, but as this is GWR I doubt that anything will happen.