Wiltshire Bus Services

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  1. wiltshirebloke

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    Thought that I would create a separate thread for general services within Wiltshire, I guess that 2017 will see a raft of changes with the council subsidy reduction coming up ....
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    Thamesdown Transport has announced a number of changes to town services across Swindon to take effect from 8th January 2017.

    Amongst the changes, passengers will see Services 1/1A and 16 combined to provide a service to the Great Western Hospital every ten minutes. Running as Service 1/1A the service will take an amended route and new timetable from Fleming Way to the hospital.

    North Swindon residents will also see their buses change, with Service 12 extended with a new route to serve Blunsdon and Highworth. Passengers in Haydon End who previously used the Service 12 will be able to use an amended Service 15/15A.

    Buses on Service 17 will also be increased to provide a service every 7/8 minutes from Penhill to Park North and vice versa. SwindonÂ’s new housing developments of Badbury Park and Ridgeway Farm will also benefit from the 12 and 19/19A respectively being rerouted to serve these homes.

    The changes taking place in January affect the majority of our services across Swindon so we would urge passengers to check the new timetables when they are available to see if their service times or numbers are changing.
     
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    will be very interested to see what happens with the 94 in trowbridge with libra pulling off the route it will certainly be interesting who picks the route up
     
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    Is it Libra pulling off the route or a reduction in the tender spec meaning it is being retendered?

    I'm sure the usual candidates (Faresaver, Libra, Frome Minibuses) will be the favourites
     
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    libra quit the contract. im told that wilts havea tender out at the moment. one of ct coaches drivers told me they were going for it but thats probably just gossip.

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    stagecoach recently canceled some or all of their sunday dutys on thamesdown routes. i dont know swindon well enoguh to know if it was all of them but probably part of this changes.
     
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    It may be gossip but CT Coaches are one of the others that you'd expect might be in for it.
     
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    I have been told that ct have not gone for the 94 but who knows it's a Wiltshire tender not sure if they are on the Wiltshire list
     
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    What's happening with Sunday duty on the 265, are the four journeys to Warminster being kept or have their been cut?

    As for the 94 in Trow its likley that Faresaver may end up with it as they took on the Town Service.
     
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    trow town 60 / 260 carrys huge numbers. even on wiltshires crappy concession scheme it is worth doing it like faresaver do with a bus that also has peak time work.

    94 is a different propesition - very long day - in baths awful traffic - and no possibility of the bus earning anything else.

    i think wilts are retendering 265 and the other sunday services next year.
     
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    Wilts renumeration is still better than Dorset or Somerset :D

    The 265 is largely commercial. I'm probably wrong but it's the evening journeys plus Sunday service between Trowbridge and Warminster? That'll rule out Faresaver!!

    Given the challenges on funding, if they do have to trim Sunday services, the Warminster extension might be vulnerable given the parallel rail service
     
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    Only the Stagecoach 11A and 19 on Sundays are being withdrawn, no plans to change 13/14 and 17 that I'm aware of.
     
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    I have often wondered why nothing has been done ages ago to provide Broad Blunsdon with a decent service. The current timetable for Broad Blunsdon (as Google Earth calls it) only has 5 journeys each way for the village (1 on the 24A, 4 on the 24) which, to my way of thinking, hardly seems adequate and I would have thought that the frequency to BB should be at least hourly so I am glad to see something being done here.

    As a side thought, following the loss of the 64 (Carterton - Swindon), anyone know if Stagecoach (or any other operator for that matter) has given thought to a service between Lechlade and Swindon? Either an extension of the 77 (although this, I note, now runs Highworth to Cirencester instead of Lechlade to Cirencester as of the last timetable revision of 20-Nov-2016 so there is at least the opportunity to change buses between the 7 and 77) with extra journeys Lechlade to Swindon. Or, dare I suggest it, revision to Service 7 to run one per hour from Highworth to Lechlade?

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    Blunsdon had a half-hourly service by the 12 until TT's last major changes. Obviously the natives failed to support it sufficiently.

    I am surprised that no operator has stepped in to provide a replacement, or partial replacement, for the 64; it always seemed well-loaded when I saw it running. I should have thought a one-bus operation should pay its way. Extending the 7 is a non-starter though - that route is hellish enough to operate reliably as it is and certainly doesn't need complicating!
     
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    Extending the 7 wouldn't work and probably wouldn't be worth it.

    If it was worth running the 64 Pulhams would have continued running it on a commercial basis.

    At least now lechlade has more than 2 connections per day to Swindon and through ticketing is bow available.
     
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    There is Blunsdon, aka. Blunsdon St. Andrew (hence references to "St. Andrew's Ridge" on buses: the Wallis Drive stop is the current terminus AFAIK) and there is Broad Blunsdon which is the other side of the A419.

    It is the latter I am referring to: the road to Highworth is the B4019 which runs along the bottom of what is referred to as Broad Blunsdon. I guess the extension will go through the village rather than straight down the B4019. I attach a screenshot from Google Earth. The blue stop markers in Broad Blunsdon indicate where the 24/24A currently serves: the 12 will replace those routes.

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    Two new e400MMC seen on M42 on delivery to GSC. Liveried up for X3 Cathedral to Coast
     
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    Looks like Libra are continuing but 94 loses Sat service

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WiltshireBuses/status/811177674433589248
     
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    Apl have gone out of business

    So far only route to be confirmed to have a new operator is x33/33 to faresaver
     
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    APL only have a few market day service now that I think are run off a school contract. The 33/X33 is the big one to cover; they've run it for quite a time. 15-20 years?
     
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    From Traveline it says APL ran 60/61/62, 91, 95 and X/33. 33/X33 is, as Grandwazoo says, the only big one that needs covering - the others just work off school work. Not sure if Faresaver will cover the school work too.
     
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    In 2016, I walked the Thames Path from Cirencester to Lechlade, using buses to connect with Swindon at both ends. While the 51 continues much as before (although without an evening service?), the other end has been utterly decimated. I had a choice of journeys, operated by either Pullmans (think that's right) & APL, neither of which now operate the route and it seems only possible to make the trip by changing en route and with an inconvenient and infrequent timetable at that. The only consolation is that the Lechlade service and the connection at Highworth is now operated by Stagecoach, which might offer the possibility of a network ticket.

    It doesn't bode well for planning the next stage on from Lechlade and the diminution of the service in that part of the world is both astonishing and depressing. Having said that, the 16:10 departure that I took attracted little interest (just a handful of us and only 2 handing over actual cash).
     

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