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Wimbledon 2021 tennis grand-slam tournament

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Andy Murray has not played in this tournament for the last four years and since his operations, he is just a shadow of his former self. Did he play in any qualifying pre-tournament events, as it seems he will be playing there this year?
 
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Andy Murray has not played in this tournament for the last four years and since his operations, he is just a shadow of his former self. Did he play in any qualifying pre-tournament events, as it seems he will be playing there this year?
He was given a “wild card” entry, and didn’t have to qualify.
 

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The defending women's champion Simona Halep, who suffered a calf injury in the Italian Open in May causing her to withdraw from the French Open, still has not fully recovered and has announced that she will not participate in the Wimbledon tournament.

What odds that the BBC will show British seeded or unseeded men or women in preference to showing seeded players from other nations. Will the draw show British players that no one has heard about on Centre Court? Xenophobia is still alive and well in the "decision making rooms" unfortunately.
 
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By the end of the first week, it is noticeable that Britain has no men left in the Mens Singles event.
Actually Cameron Norrie is still in it although given he is playing Federer I expect after Today the above will be true, and some might argue he is more a New Zealander than a Brit.

Anyway I enjoyed the 1st two Murray matches I didn't see the last one, potentially a Wimbledon swansong for him, should he retire I don't know, the problem for him which he has alluded to is whether his body will allow him to back to something close to the level he wants to be at, he clearly doesn't want to just make up the numbers, one thing is for certain I think it will be a very long before we find another UK player as good as Murray, and you look at the current crop of players and yes they are good players but they are not going to win a Grand Slam.
 

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Actually Cameron Norrie is still in it although given he is playing Federer I expect after Today the above will be true, and some might argue he is more a New Zealander than a Brit.
Indeed, I give as much credence to Cameron Norrie's New Zealand connection as I once did in the "British Empire" English connection once attached to a certain Greg Rusedski.... :rolleyes:
 

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What odds that the BBC will show British seeded or unseeded men or women in preference to showing seeded players from other nations. Will the draw show British players that no one has heard about on Centre Court? Xenophobia is still alive and well in the "decision making rooms" unfortunately.
This is not "xenophobia". It may be bias, but I suspect every tennis tournament in the world will tend to favour home players when deciding court allocations.

Indeed, I give as much credence to Cameron Norrie's New Zealand connection as I once did in the "British Empire" English connection once attached to a certain Greg Rusedski.... :rolleyes:
This on the other hand, is "xenophobia"!
 

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Cant stand tennis: Snooty, effette, upper class past time.

Indeed, I give as much credence to Cameron Norrie's New Zealand connection as I once did in the "British Empire" English connection once attached to a certain Greg Rusedski.... :rolleyes:

British if they win. Foreign if they lose. ;)
 

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Indeed, I give as much credence to Cameron Norrie's New Zealand connection as I once did in the "British Empire" English connection once attached to a certain Greg Rusedski.... :rolleyes:

Aren't you a cricket fan? Presumably the likes of Robin Smith, Allan Lamb, Andrew Strauss, Kevin Pietersen, Nasser Hussain, Eoin Morgan, Jofra Archer, Andy Caddick, Ben Stokes plus many, many more don't meet your nationality test either?
 

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Aren't you a cricket fan? Presumably the likes of Robin Smith, Allan Lamb, Andrew Strauss, Kevin Pietersen, Nasser Hussain, Eoin Morgan, Jofra Archer, Andy Caddick, Ben Stokes plus many, many more don't meet your nationality test either?
That's the problem now that we no longer have "an empire coloured red on the map of the world" but made up a "pretend empire" that goes under the name of the Commonwealth, where residents of that exclusive club can play for England. Eoin Morgan does hail from Dublin and in that country of origin, there are those who decry his involvement with an England team.
 

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That's the problem now that we no longer have "an empire coloured red on the map of the world" but made up a "pretend empire" that goes under the name of the Commonwealth, where residents of that exclusive club can play for England. Eoin Morgan does hail from Dublin and in that country of origin, there are those who decry his involvement with an England team.

It's got nothing to do with the Commonwealth, pretend empire or exclusive club. Cameron Norrie, Greg Rusedski and all those cricketing examples I stated have at least one British parent.
 

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It's got nothing to do with the Commonwealth, pretend empire or exclusive club. Cameron Norrie, Greg Rusedski and all those cricketing examples I stated have at least one British parent.
Against that, why did they choose that parent rather than the other parent and play for the country of the other parent?

To go back on topic of tennis, one unusual tennis player is Johanna Konta, who has Hungarian parentage, actually represented Australia until 2012 but is now seen as one of the foremost female British tennis players.
 

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BBC surpassed itself with the flag waving this morning. Transmission started at 1100, which is when play started. So they spent over 25 minutes talking about Andy Murray before whipping up interest in up and coming 18 year old Emma Raducanu. By the time they decided to actually show any live action they got about three points worth before rain stopped play.

Against that, why did they choose that parent rather than the other parent and play for the country of the other parent?

To go back on topic of tennis, one unusual tennis player is Johanna Konta, who has Hungarian parentage, actually represented Australia until 2012 but is now seen as one of the foremost female British tennis players.
Konta's parents left Australia when it became clear that Tennis Australia would not support her development with any funding. And for those unaware she is missing Wimbledon thanks to a positive Covid test from one of her support team.
 

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Emma Raducanu has just beaten Sorana Cirsta 6-3 7-5 to proceed into the fourth round of the Womens Singles
And was most impressive! Especially as she had played no competitive tennis between late February last year and early June this year. At least her schoolwork got her fullest attention.
 

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Indeed so , losing by three sets to one to the "old timer"
But on the plus side just maybe we have a new British Women star of the future, although of course we should not put any expectation on her at this stage but many will.
 

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Konta's parents left Australia when it became clear that Tennis Australia would not support her development with any funding. And for those unaware she is missing Wimbledon thanks to a positive Covid test from one of her support team.
Was not Laura Robson, some years ago, a new "British" hope who also had Australian connections?
 

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Cant stand tennis: Snooty, effette, upper class past time.
I'd like to see an overpaid whingeing premiership footballer match their fitness. Would they play every other day, sometimes up to four hours a session, and without ten other mates to ease the burden?
 

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I'd like to see an overpaid whingeing premiership footballer match their fitness. Would they play every other day, sometimes up to four hours a session, and without ten other mates to ease the burden
You do get a sit down, a helpfully perky attendant, as much free Robinsons squash as you like and a snack every couple of games in tennis so lets try and compare apples with apples shall we?

However, while we are not comparing apples with apples lets look at women's tennis where the number of games you have to play is less the then the men. That doesn't happen in football. You don't play 75 minutes in a women's game.
 

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You do get a sit down, a helpfully perky attendant, as much free Robinsons squash as you like and a snack every couple of games in tennis so lets try and compare apples with apples shall we?

However, while we are not comparing apples with apples lets look at women's tennis where the number of games you have to play is less the then the men. That doesn't happen in football. You don't play 75 minutes in a women's game.
I'm more a Cricket fan than Football or Tennis
 

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You do get a sit down, a helpfully perky attendant, as much free Robinsons squash as you like and a snack every couple of games in tennis so lets try and compare apples with apples shall we?

However, while we are not comparing apples with apples lets look at women's tennis where the number of games you have to play is less the then the men. That doesn't happen in football. You don't play 75 minutes in a women's game.
In football you get 20 mins. break after 45 minutes of touching the ball possibly a dozen times, and have other breaks whilst your mates feign injury.
Tennis players of both sexes will often play doubles or mixed doubles the same day as a singles match.
 

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In football you get 20 mins. break after 45 minutes of touching the ball possibly a dozen times, and have other breaks whilst your mates feign injury.
Tennis players of both sexes will often play doubles or mixed doubles the same day as a singles match.
Footballers don't need much effort to be paid
 

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In football you get 20 mins. break after 45 minutes of touching the ball possibly a dozen times, and have other breaks whilst your mates feign injury.
Tennis players of both sexes will often play doubles or mixed doubles the same day as a singles match.

You are still comparing applies with coal, the sports are completely different. Tennis players average a mile in a match, footballers average seven times that.
 

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Was not Laura Robson, some years ago, a new "British" hope who also had Australian connections?
Laura Robson was born in Melbourne Australia
Her family moved to Singapore when she was 18 months old and to the UK when she was 6 years old. A more obvious Australian connection is that as a Junior she twice reached the final of the Girls Singles at the Australian Open.

However, while we are not comparing apples with apples lets look at women's tennis where the number of games you have to play is less the then the men. That doesn't happen in football. You don't play 75 minutes in a women's game.
The women spend just as much time as the men training/practising without which the standard of play would be much lower. And the extra sets for men only applies at the 4 Grand Slam tournaments. This leads to a lot of unnecessarily long matches which is one of the reasons I enjoy watching the women's game while having almost no interest in the men's. While at the same time I have little interest in women's football as their different physical attributes, predominantly leg strength, means they play a somewhat different style of game: much more short passing with very few long-range shots on goal.
 

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I wish the nationality issue could be put to bed, many (most?) people do not have simple straight forward ancestry and upbringings these days if ever.

I could play pro sports for England, Ireland and the USA. Well if i wasn't rubbish at all of them of course.
 

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Would be rather nice if we had a could remove Djokovic from the competition this week. The men's game is getting a bit boring with the same names winning everything, but the ladies is more interesting. Even Ash Barty is not guaranteed a final spot the way things are going.
 
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