Win a Pacer ( T & Cs apply!)

Discussion in 'Railtours & Preservation' started by mind the gap, 28 May 2019.

  1. mind the gap

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    https://twitter.com/jameshoggarth/status/1133347691570896896?s=21
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-48434379
     
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  3. Ken H

    Ken H Established Member

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    1st prize, 1 pacer.
    2nd prize, 2 pacers!
     
  4. tiptoptaff

    tiptoptaff Established Member

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    The replies on that twitter thread is pure wibble. What an idiot she is
     
  5. Malcmal

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    How do buses normally get around the place - the power of levitation?!!
     
  6. tiptoptaff

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    Yes, this phrase does often make me chuckle. As if road buses don't have wheels
     
  7. trainophile

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    They could do the interiors up and use them as homeless night shelters, parked up in spare sidings. I’m sure some charity would be interested in the idea!
     
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    From the BBC website linked above:
    I love that, to think that buses don't have wheels? ;)
     
  9. gazthomas

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    You beat me to it! :)
     
  10. jkkne

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    There’s probably a market for some sort of boutique converted Pacer hotel.
     
  11. chubs

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    Although you wont get as many razor blades out of them as an mk3 or hst surely there's still lots of scrap value?
     
  12. gazthomas

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    Let's really, really hope so. It would put the "camping" into "camping coach" that's for sure.

    As far as I'm aware there are no hotels that use Leyland National buses for their rooms
     
  13. CHAPS2034

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    Indeed there is - and especially for rail enthusiasts :p:p at some suitable lineside spot .
    Suggestions please?
     
  14. modernrail

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    Are they not owned by a ROSCO? If so, why would the ROSCO allow these to be offered like this over other units they will get scrap value for.

    Is this the ROSCO pretending to do something fun but really just getting out of a liability because they are that rubbish that even the breakers yard would charge to take them?

    Even better, is there something nasty hiding in there that means they would actually be quite expensive to scrap - the nature of which will only be revealed after some poor community group assumes liability? I can't imagine what it could be bearing in mind they are a bus bolted to a goods wagon.

    More to the point, will these bloody things never die? Is their withdrawel merely a flesh wound? Will they feature in every chapter of out post-apocolyptic, dystopian future? Are they robots in disguise? Do they make an ideal Tory Association being not only an excellent symbol of Tory underinvestment in the north but also more than adequate in size for the 3 80 year olds that for some reason get to chose our next Prime Minister?
     
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    Wouldn't surprise me if they have asbestos somewhere.
     
  16. Jozhua

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    I think finding an interesting way to preserve a few isn't a bad idea. Despite the fact they are disliked, they are part of our history and can stand as a reminder to future generations to not make the same mistakes we did.

    Yes, it is possible to mount a bus to a freight car and call it a train. No, it should never be repeated.
     
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  17. PeterY

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    3rd prize.....3 pacers etc etc. :D:D:D:D
     
  18. Darandio

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    Might want to visit this thread for confirmation then.
     
  19. Jozhua

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    Loser gets awarded the opportunity to run the Northern Rail franchise!
     
  20. GrimShady

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    Excellent response! :lol:
     
  21. AlexNL

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    Thanks for pointing that out to me, I didn't know that BR had already done their best to get rid of asbestos.

    Here in the Netherlands, two fleets of trains built in the seventies (Mat 64, and SGM) were known to contain asbestos. On some units it was only removed this decade!
     
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    Bearing in mind that us Northerners have had the pleasure of pacers for so long, I feel that now is the time for generosity to be shown and these Pacers should be made available only to community groups in London and the South East - Indeed I insist that they should benefit to spread the joy.
     
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    Only thing with reusing Pacers as community spaces and cafes (hopefully homes etc) is how would heating be provided?

    Who would I suggest to perhaps using the soon-to-be surplus Class 91's to couple to the Pacers to provide the heating? I say 91's as it wouldn't be very environmentally friendly to use old diesel locos to provide heating for ages.

    I know it would require new / re-wiring but worth a suggestion I'd have thought.
     
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    You would most likely provide heating that is electrically connected from the mains, certainly not from a redundant Class 91!
     
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    If a suggested use for these things is any sort of home, surely shipping containers would be just as suitable, if not more so. Easier to keep potential intruders out; probably easier to heat/insulate, too!
     
  26. Bevan Price

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    I doubt that the windows would survive very long, once the local yobs noted Pacers were planted in accessible locations.....
     
  27. 6Gman

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    I was going to say something similar.

    Hard to see what function wouldn't be as well (or better) served by a wooden hut, portacabin or shipping container.
     
  28. TT-ONR-NRN

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    You could put them on platforms as waiting rooms/shelters? Would have to be a very wide platform, mind you. Or maybe alongside the platform or next to the track? I’m thinking on rural branch lines like in Cornwall or something where there is plenty of space.
     
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    Its a good PR stunt to remind people that the Pacers will go as soon as the 195 fleet is in service.
     
  30. LeeLivery

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    Mad idea - if I was the Mid-Hants Line, I'd try and get one to run a few daily commuter services to connect to SWR at Alton. You'd probably be able to decently fill a 2 car Pacer if the fare is right. Won't be up to Hampshire's standards I must admit :lol:
     
  31. Robertj21a

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    I would hope that a few go to preserved lines. They would be very popular with many enthusiasts who haven't been used to them.
     

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