WMR Class 196 Build and Implementation

[philip simpkin]

Both cars of 196 011 noted heading north through Worcestershire [on lorries on the M5 ] lunchtime today.

Thanks. Does anyone know if this has gone to Tyseley or Donnington. Any information much appreciated. Thanks

 

[Pokelet]

UID 196 driving carriage heading south on the M5 about 4:15pm today on the Oldbury Viaduct.

 

[Covshire1]

Thanks. Does anyone know if this has gone to Tyseley or Donnington. Any information much appreciated. Thanks

196011 went to Tyseley. Reportedly another due this week. 196009 left Donnington also but no idea where it is now. Could be one of the coaches noted on the M5 today.

 

[The_Train]

196011 went to Tyseley. Reportedly another due this week. 196009 left Donnington also but no idea where it is now. Could be one of the coaches noted on the M5 today.

My info had 196009 as having turned up at Tyseley.
Anything heading south on the M5 could only be heading to the CAF site in South Wales couldn't it?

 

[Mollman]

Not sure if one was out on test today
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L27868/2021-06-17/detailed

 

[LA50041]

Not sure if one was out on test today
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L27868/2021-06-17/detailed

that was 196011 apparently

 

[The_Train]

196108 is reported to have disappeared from the Donnington terminal - could it be this that was sighted heading south on the M5?

 

[bnsf734]

I drove past Tyseley today and Allelys were delivering a 2 car 196. Couldn't get any numbers unfortunately.

 

[Pokelet]

Could well have been 108. There was definitely 3 numbers on the front.

196108 is reported to have disappeared from the Donnington terminal - could it be this that was sighted heading south on the M5?

 

[LA50041]

196011 allocated to the test run 5Q24 1339 from Tyseley this afternoon

 

[philip simpkin]

Viewed Tyseley this afternoon. In the shed were 103 &108, which now confirms where it went on leaving Donnington. The Carriage sidings had 5 four cars only 102 & 104. Interestingly it there appeared to be 4 two cars only (011 could be identified)I had only recorded 005, 006 & 011 as being at Tyseley. Any information or correction on the two cars appreciated.

 

[The_Train]

Viewed Tyseley this afternoon. In the shed were 103 &108, which now confirms where it went on leaving Donnington. The Carriage sidings had 5 four cars only 102 & 104. Interestingly it there appeared to be 4 two cars only (011 could be identified)I had only recorded 005, 006 & 011 as being at Tyseley. Any information or correction on the two cars appreciated.

My records have 006 as being at Donnington and it was eyeballed there on 17/06/21!
All of the others you mention I have as being at Tyseley

 

[philip simpkin]

My records have 006 as being at Donnington and it was eyeballed there on 17/06/21!
All of the others you mention I have as being at Tyseley

My apologies I should of said 005, 010 & 011 at Tyseley. I have seen 006 at Donnington. Thanks for correcting me.

 

[Spirit555]

196007 being delivered from Donnington to Tyseley as I type. Running 136 late.
37608 and 37611 providing traction.

Update: Is anyone able to confirm which unit actually went as I have now been quoted 008 and 009 too !!!

Mark

 

[Liam L]

196007 being delivered from Donnington to Tyseley as I type. Running 136 late.
37608 and 37611 providing traction.

Update: Is anyone able to confirm which unit actually went as I have now been quoted 008 and 009 too !!!

Mark

https://twitter.com/SHRtoWVH/status/1416045851244474369?s=20

008

 

[Spirit555]

5Q66 today conveyed 196109 between 37601 and 37611 and barriers 6378/79, from Donnington to Tyseley. However this got turned back at Walsall and is apparently returning to Donnington.

Mark

 

[DavidGrain]

5Q66 today conveyed 196109 between 37601 and 37611 and barriers 6378/79, from Donnington to Tyseley. However this got turned back at Walsall and is apparently returning to Donnington.

Mark

According to RTT 544N was turned back at Walsall 'Awaiting terminal/yard acceptance' so apparently Tyseley refused it for some reason.
Why is it necessary for these to be hauled. Can they not be driven?

 

[Liam L]

According to RTT 544N was turned back at Walsall 'Awaiting terminal/yard acceptance' so apparently Tyseley refused it for some reason.
Why is it necessary for these to be hauled. Can they not be driven?

Because the units at Donnington haven't been accepted and tested so I presume that the reason for them to be dragged.

All testing is done out of Tyseley.

 

[Nova1]

Apparently Julian Edwards (WMR Managing Director) said the Class 196s would begin service in Q2 2022.

If true, not sure how WMR are going to ride out the rest of this year. Even with the significantly reduced timetable they are currently running, they are still constantly short-forming services. And I'm sure EMR are going to want their 170s soon... WMR could be approaching a serious shortage of units.

 

[Liam L]

Apparently Julian Edwards (WMR Managing Director) said the Class 196s would begin service in Q2 2022.

If true, not sure how WMR are going to ride out the rest of this year. Even with the significantly reduced timetable they are currently running, they are still constantly short-forming services. And I'm sure EMR are going to want their 170s soon... WMR could be approaching a serious shortage of units.

Not sure if WMR are going to lose anymore 170s for EMR yet. 7 only went in May to cover EMR timetable demands. Don't think they going to get anymore until the 196s start coming into service.

 

[Liam L]

Class 196 move today with ROG 37s - between Donnington and Tyseley.

Realtime Trains - 502W 1039 Donnington Rft to Tyseley T.M.D.

Realtime Trains is an independent source of live realtime running information for the Great British railway network.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Spirit555]

Quoted as 196109.

Mark

 

[Liam L]

Quoted as 196109.

Mark

Was 196109, along with 37601/611

 

[Peter Sarf]

A friend of mine says 196006, 196007 & 196011 were brough from Tysely to Bletchely yesterday (02/09/2021). The optimist in me says that is in preparation for the Oxford to/from Milton Keynes service, BUT perhaps mileage accumulation up and down the WCML OR have the run out of space to keep the units ?. So... What are they really at Bletchley for ?

 

[railphotoghw]

A friend of mine says 196006, 196007 & 196011 were brough from Tysely to Bletchely yesterday (02/09/2021). The optimist in me says that is in preparation for the Oxford to/from Milton Keynes service, BUT perhaps mileage accumulation up and down the WCML OR have the run out of space to keep the units ?. So... What are they really at Bletchley for ?

Believe they are just being stored there to free up space at Tyseley, for testing of more new units.

 

[172007]

Believe they are just being stored there to free up space at Tyseley, for testing of more new units.

Getting them out of the way jnto secure storage. Last week a 196 was hit by graffiti when on the depot at Tyseley. 3 Road. was visible from the main lines.

 

[newtownmgr]

Moved to Bletchley to allow sets to come from Donnington for acceptance & mileage accumulation

 

[Liam L]

196009 moved from Donnington to Tyseley today for testing.

 

[warwickshire]

Apparently Julian Edwards (WMR Managing Director) said the Class 196s would begin service in Q2 2022.

If true, not sure how WMR are going to ride out the rest of this year. Even with the significantly reduced timetable they are currently running, they are still constantly short-forming services. And I'm sure EMR are going to want their 170s soon... WMR could be approaching a serious shortage of units.

Interesting.
Please can the op assist further or anyone else for this matter when is Q2 2022.
Also as well will the 196s replace the 170s few operated services on the Hereford services first.
Finally when will the 196s replace the 170s in public service on the Birmingham to Shrewsbury services please.
Thank you further.

 

[XAM2175]

Please can the op assist further or anyone else for this matter when is Q2 2022.

Second quarter, so April to June.