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RealTrains07

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From a distance you wouldnt notice the doors arent green (except the cab of course that sticks out)

i wonder why they have rebranded that unit now? (Cause it was a definite rush job) and where did it have the works done? Cant have been long marston surely?
 

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I saw both Long Marston moves yesterday. Taken in was 350102 and brought out 350129. Don't believe 350130 in the program as yet.
350130 was seen in traffic on the 21st at Northampton.

HTH

Mark

Thanks for correcting me - I saw a pic online last night which claimed it was 57305+350130, obviously an error in the caption, and I can't find it now!
 

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Presumably measuring up the sign before ordering was too much effort...looks awful.

(Attached image of running in board at Bletchley just plonked on top of the badly painted old one)

Reminds me of when London Midland put up new station signs at Acton Bridge. They went to the effort of putting up brand new signs, but only painting and labelling half of them! So you had half the station signs just white posts and black boards. Not very helpful to see when on the train :lol: Looked like that for years, often wondered why they didn’t finish them off, having done the hard bit!
 

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Thanks for correcting me - I saw a pic online last night which claimed it was 57305+350130, obviously an error in the caption, and I can't find it now!

Yes I saw that photo. The unit appears to carry no numbers above the driver or second man's windows.

Mark
 

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Sutton Coldfield, Shenstone and Lichfield City now appear to all be in WMR signage. Butlers Lane and Four Oaks are still only partly done.
Sutton Coldfield running boards say "Royal Town of Sutton Coldfield"
Lichfield City running boards have the info box saying"Birthplace of Samuel Johnson"
 

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As the thread is locked I'll ask here...

Is west mids trains proposing the same as SWR.. that a guard is guaranteed (unlike southern) safety crit (unlike southern) but with the driver operating the doors (like Southern )
 

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As the thread is locked I'll ask here...

Is west mids trains proposing the same as SWR.. that a guard is guaranteed (unlike southern) safety crit (unlike southern) but with the driver operating the doors (like Southern )

I'm almost certain that's what they're saying, yes. They only ever asked for DCO.
 

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Here we go again - another month, another list. Updated list of all the WMR branded trains/stations (as of 2/12/19).

Stations
WCML Rugby-Birmingham-Stafford-Stoke Loop (COV-SNE, exc. COV, BHM & BHI)
All WMT-operated stations between Rugby (exc.) & Stoke-on-Trent (exc.) are in WMR orange & grey, with the exception of Penkridge (with old-style LMS lampposts).
>Canley: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Tile Hill: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Berkswell: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Hampton-in-Arden: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Marston Green: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).

>Lea Hall: Network WM running boards, LM signage.
>Stechford: Network WM running boards, LM signage.
>Adderley Park: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Smethwick Rolfe Street: WMR running boards/signage.
>Smethwick Galton Bridge: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers) on both levels.
>Sandwell & Dudley: WMR running boards/signage.

>Dudley Port: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Tipton: WMR running boards/signage.
>Coseley: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Wolverhampton: WMR running boards/signage.
>Penkridge: WMR running boards/signage.
>Stone: WMR running boards/signage.


Wolverhampton-Shrewsbury Line
All stations between Wolverhampton (exc.) & Shrewsbury (exc.) have old-style GWR lampposts, except Telford Central (which has WMR orange/grey).
>Bilbrook: WMR running boards/signage.
>Codsall: WMR running boards/signage.
>Albrighton: WMR running boards/signage.
>Cosford: WMR running boards/signage.
>Shifnal: WMR running boards/signage.

>Telford Central: LM running boards/signage.
>Oakengates: WMR running boards/signage.
>Wellington: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Gateway to the Wrekin") transfers.


Cross-City Line (LTV-BMV/RDC, exc. BHM)
Unless stated otherwise, all stations on the Cross-City Line have full orange/grey lampposts.
>Lichfield Trent Valley (High Level): WMR running boards/signage (assumed).
>Lichfield City: WMRrunning boards/signage (inc. "Birthplace of Samuel Johnson" transfers).
>Shenstone: WMR running boards/signage.
>Blake Street: WMR running boards/signage.

>Butlers Lane: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Four Oaks: Network WM running boards, LM/WMR signage mix.
>(Royal Town of) Sutton Coldfield: WMR running boards/signage.
>Wylde Green: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts (not throughout; 1 lamppost at the Lichfield end is only half painted). Station sign over bridge still NWM.
>Chester Road: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Boldmere" transfers).
>Erdington: WMR running boards/signage.
>Gravelly Hill: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Home of Spaghetti Junction" transfers).
>Aston: WMR running boards/signage (inc. AVFC transfers).
>Duddeston: WMR running boards/signage.
>Five Ways: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Broad Street" transfers).
>University: Partial WMR running boards/full WMR signage (inc. "for Queen Elizabeth Hospital and University of Birmingham" transfers).
>Selly Oak: WMR running boards
, LM signage.
>Bournville: WMR running boards/signage (inc. Stirchley/Cadbury World transfers), Purple "Cadbury" lampposts.
>Kings Norton: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Northfield: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Longbridge: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Barnt Green: WMR running boards/signage (inc. Lickey Hills Country Park transfers).
>Alvechurch: WMR running boards/signage.
>Redditch: WMR running boards, WMR signage (assumed).
>Bromsgrove: WMR running boards, WMR/non-std signage mix.


Snow Hill Lines (Dorridge/Stratford-u-A - Ledbury via Snow Hill & Worcester)
Unless stated otherwise, all WMT-operated stations from Stratford-upon-Avon to Earlswood (exc. Stratford Pkwy) have LM running boards/signage with old-style GWR lampposts, and all stations from Wythall to Spring Road have Network WM Signs and the same lampposts.
Unless otherwise mentioned, all WMT-operated stations from Widney Manor to Worcester (inc. Stourbridge Town) have orange/grey lampposts; Widney Manor, Olton & Acocks Green also have WMR signs/signage.

>Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway: LM running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.
>Wilmcote: WMR running boards/signage (inc. Mary Arden's Farm transfers).

>Wootton Wawen: LM running boards/signage (assumed).
>Henley-in-Arden: WMR running boards/signage.
>Danzey: WMR running boards/signage.
>Wood End: WMR running boards
, LM signage.
>The Lakes: WMR running boards/signage.
>Earlswood: WMR running boards, WMR signage (AFAIK).
>Wythall: WMR running boards, WMR signage (AFAIK).
>Whitlocks End: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Dickens Heath" transfers). (Updated as of 06/11/2019)
>Shirley: WMR running boards/signage.
>Widney Manor: WMR running boards/signage.
>Olton: WMR running boards/signage.
>Acocks Green: WMR running boards/signage.
>Yardley Wood: WMR running boards/signage.

>Hall Green: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Spring Road: WMR running boards/signage.
>Tyseley: WMR running boards/signage; depot has orange/grey lampposts.Running board font different to the rest.

>Small Heath: Network WM running boards, WMR signage, unpainted lampposts.
>Bordesley: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Birmingham Snow Hill: WMR running boards, LM signage, orange/purple lampposts.
>Jewellery Quarter: WMR running boards/signage.
>The Hawthorns: WMR running boards, LM signage (inc. West Bromwich Albion transfers).
>Langley Green: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Oldbury" transfers).
>Rowley Regis: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Blackheath" transfers).
>Old Hill: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Haden Hill" transfers).
>Cradley Heath: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Merry Hill Shopping Centre" transfers).
>Lye: WMR running boards/signage.
>Stourbridge Junction: WMR running boards/signage.

(>Stourbridge Town: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.)
>Hagley: WMR running boards/signage.
>Blakedown: WMR running boards/signage.
>Kidderminster: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Severn Valley Railway" transfers (assumed)).
>Hartlebury: WMR running boards/signage.
>Droitwich Spa: WMR running boards/signage.
>Worcester Shrub Hill: WMR running boards/signage.

>Worcester Foregate Street: WMR running boards/signage. (Updated as of 06/12/2019)
>Malvern Link: WMR running boards/signage, old-style GWR lampposts (inc. "Cotswolds & Malverns Line" transfers).
>Great Malvern: WMR running boards/signage, old-style GWR lampposts (inc. "Cotswolds & Malverns Line" transfers).
>Colwall: WMR running boards/signage, old-style GWR lampposts (inc. "Cotswolds & Malverns Line" transfers).
>Ledbury: WMR running boards/signage, old-style GWR lampposts (inc. "Cotswolds & Malverns Line" transfers).


Chase Line (Aston (exc.) - Walsall - Rugeley TV (exc.))
All WMT-operated stations between Aston (exc.) & Rugeley Trent Valley (exc.) are in WMR orange & grey.
>Witton: WMR running boards/signage, plus new PIS screens.
>Perry Barr: WMR running boards/signage.
>Hamstead: WMR running boards/signage.
>Tame Bridge Parkway: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Bescot Stadium: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).

>Walsall: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Bloxwich: WMR running boards/signage.
>Bloxwich North: WMR running boards/signage.
>Landywood: WMR running boards (southbound platform),
Network WM running boards (northbound platform); WMR signage.
>Cannock: WMR running boards/signage.

>Hednesford: Network WM running boards, LM signage.
>Rugeley Town: LM running boards, WMR signage.

NUCKLE - Nuneaton/Coventry/Kenilworth/Leamington Spa
>Kenilworth: similar to Bromsgrove (but with white running boards)
>Coventry Arena: WMR running boards, LM signage, orange/grey lampposts.
>Bedworth: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.
>Bermuda Park: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.


Others
>Water Orton: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.
>Wilnecote: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.

>Coleshill Parkway: LM running boards, WMR signage, unpainted posts with WMR orange shelter.
>Claverdon: WMR running boards, partial WMR signage, some LM signage, old-style GWR lampposts.
>Bearley: WMR running boards/signage, old-style GWR lampposts.

Trains
Class 139 - both in FINAL WMR livery
139001: unrefurbished
139002: unrefurbished

Class 153 (all to transfer to EMR?):
153310: EMT debranded livery, on loan from EMR
153326: EMT debranded livery, on loan from EMR
153334: LM livery, WMR branding
153354: ditto
153356: ditto
153364: ditto
153365: ditto
153366: ditto
153371: ditto
153375: ditto

Class 170/5 (2-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery
Class 170/6 (3-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery


Class 172/0 (2-cars, ex-London Overground) - all in FINAL WMR livery, half-refurbished & in service
172001: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172002: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172003: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172004: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172005: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172006: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172007: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172008: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs

Class 172/2 (2-cars, with gangway) - all in FINAL WMR livery, and refurbished with new interior, WiFi & plugs

Class 172/3 (3-cars, with gangway) - all in FINAL WMR livery
172331: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172332: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172333: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172334: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172335: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172336: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172337: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172338: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172339: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172340: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172341: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172342: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172343: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172344: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172345: unrefurbished but with WiFi

Class 323 (due to leave the franchise) - all in outgoing WMR livery
323201-204: PRM compliant, refurbished.
323205-208: not PRM compliant.
323209: PRM compliant, refurbished.
323210-215: not PRM compliant.
323216-219: PRM compliant, refurbished.
323220-222: not PRM compliant.
323240: PRM compliant, refurbished.
323241-243: not PRM compliant.

(NB: WCML stations and Class 230s, 319s and 350s are omitted as they fall under the LNWR umbrella and this list focuses on the WMR side of things)
Feel free to quote this post with any updates to the list!
 
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323240 now PRM compliant, and in service today. Also 323210 seen today and is NOT PRM compliant

Mark
 

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And a similarly updated list for the LNWR fleet/stations (as of 2/12/19).

Stations
WCML
All WMT-managed stations on the WCML have two-tone green/white LNWR lampposts from Watford Jct to Acton Bridge (inclusive).

>Acton Bridge: LNWR running boards/signage.
>Hartford: LNWR running boards/signage.
>Winsford: LNWR running boards/signage.
>Rugeley Trent Valley: LNWR running boards/signage.
>Lichfield Trent Valley (Low Level): LNWR running boards/signage.
>Tamworth: LNWR running boards/signage (both levels).
>Polesworth: LNWR running boards/signage.
>Atherstone: LNWR running boards/signage.
>Nuneaton: LNWR running boards/signage.

>Long Buckby: LM running boards/signage.
>Northampton: LNWR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers). (Updated as of 03/12/2019)
>Wolverton: LNWR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).

>Milton Keynes Central: LM running boards/signage.
>Bletchley: LNWR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Leighton Buzzard: LM "Olympic gold" running boards, LNWR signage.
>Cheddington: LNWR running boards/signage.
>Tring: LNWR running boards/signage. (N.B. One lamppost behind P1 is still in LM green/black).
>Berkhamsted: LNWR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Hemel Hempstead: LNWR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Apsley: LNWR running boards/signage.
>Kings Langley: LNWR running boards/signage.

>Watford Junction: LM running boards/signage (except platform extensions).

Abbey Line - all have LNWR running boards, signage & two-tone green lampposts.

Marston Vale Line - all have LNWR "Marston Vale" running boards & signage.
>Fenny Stratford: LNWR two-tone green lampposts.
>Bow Brickhill (for Caldecotte and Tilbrook): Partial LNWR "Marston Vale" signs/signage, green/black (LM) lampposts.
>Woburn Sands: LNWR two-tone green lampposts.
>Aspley Guise: Green/black (LM) lampposts.
>Ridgmont: LNWR two-tone green lampposts.
>Lidlington: LNWR two-tone green lampposts.
>Millbrook (Beds): LNWR two-tone green lampposts.
>Stewartby (for Kimberley College): LNWR two-tone green lampposts.
>Kempston Hardwick: LNWR two-tone green lampposts.
>Bedford St. Johns: LNWR two-tone green lampposts.


Trains
Class 230 - all refurbished and in full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery

Class 319 (due to leave the franchise upon introduction of Class 730s)
319005: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319012: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319013: LM livery, LNWR branding
319214: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319215: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319216: LM livery, LNWR branding
319217: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319218: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319219: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319220: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319429: LM livery, LNWR branding
319433: LM livery, LNWR branding
319441: LM livery, LNWR branding
319457: LM livery, LNWR branding (with white cab ends)
319460: LM livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/1
350101-103: LM livery, LNWR branding (no corrosion repair, unrefurbished)
350104: LNWR "undercoat" livery, awaiting full LNWR livery & branding (corrosion repair complete, unrefurbished). At Long Marston for corrosion repair & refurbishment (again!)
350105: LM livery, LNWR branding (no corrosion repair, unrefurbished)
350106: LNWR "undercoat" livery without branding (corrosion repair complete, refurbished).
350107-109: LM livery, LNWR branding (no corrosion repair, unrefurbished)
350110: LM "Project 110" livery, LNWR branding (no corrosion repair, refurbished)
350111-114: LM livery, LNWR branding (no corrosion repair, unrefurbished)
350115: LNWR "undercoat" livery, awaiting full LNWR livery & branding (corrosion repair complete, refurbished). Had another spell in Long Marston.
350116-122: LM livery, LNWR branding (no corrosion repair, unrefurbished)
350123: LNWR "undercoat" livery without branding (corrosion repair complete, refurbished).
350124-128: LM livery, LNWR branding (no corrosion repair, unrefurbished)
350129: LM livery, LNWR branding (no corrosion repair, unrefurbished). At Long Marston for corrosion repair and refurbishment.
350130: LM livery, LNWR branding (no corrosion repair, unrefurbished)

Class 350/2 (due to leave the franchise upon introduction of Class 730s)
350231: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350232: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

350233: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350234: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350235: LM livery (with BTP wrap), LNWR branding.
350236-238: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350239: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350240: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

350241-243: LM livery, LNWR branding
350244: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350245: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

350246-251: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350252-254: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350255: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350256: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350257-259: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350260: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350261: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350262: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350263: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

350264-266: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350267: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

Class 350/3 - all reliveried into full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe
350368: Full LNWR livery with "Resorts World Birmingham" advertising branding
350369: Full LNWR livery with "Edgbaston Cricket Ground" advertising branding
350370: Full LNWR livery with "Cadbury World" advertising branding
350371: Full LNWR livery with "Birmingham Airport" advertising branding
350372: Full LNWR livery with "Visit Liverpool" advertising branding
350373: Full LNWR livery with "Birmingham Hippodrome" advertising branding
350374: Full LNWR livery with "Liverpool Airport" advertising branding
350375: Full LNWR livery with "Madame Tussauds" advertising branding
350376: Full LNWR livery with "Wizarding World of Harry Potter" advertising branding
350377: Full LNWR livery with "RSC: Visit Stratford upon Avon" advertising branding

Class 350/4 (units leased to TPE in bold)
350401: Full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe. Unrefurbished AFAIK. Large unit no's.
350402: Still with TPE, in TPE livery.
350403: Still with TPE, in unbranded livery following repair.

350404: Full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe. Unrefurbished AFAIK. Large unit no's.
350405: Full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe. Unrefurbished AFAIK. Large unit no's.
350406: Still with TPE, in TPE livery.
350407: Still with TPE, in TPE livery.
350408: Still with TPE, in TPE livery.
350409: Still with TPE, in TPE livery.
350410: Still with TPE, in TPE livery.
 
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350/116 has returned refurbished however remains in LM livery so no corrosion repair as of yet
 

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Any further updates on 350/4s yet??

the 397s are finally starting work on TPE so hopefully the 4s will start moving over
 

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Any further updates on 350/4s yet??

the 397s are finally starting work on TPE so hopefully the 4s will start moving over

Already here and being used. The 0737 from LBZ to EUS had a 350/4 as the middle unit of a 12 carriage set. Think it was 350/401 but i didn’t get a good look as I was just walking onto the platform.

Will see if I can see it when I get into Euston.

Jon
 

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350/113 has returned internal refurbishment done and like 116 has not had the exterior work done yet

102 and 103 have also returned but refurbished status is currently unknown
102 and 103 have returned....I’ll find out what’s been done to them. 101 is still away. That one was already in the white livery but had not been refreshed internally.
 

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some services will remain short formed due to delays in the transfer of the remaining 350/4s also
 
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323221 back with accessibility compliant mods. Still carries BTP on middle car but with a big gap where toilet added.

Mark
 

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Heard on the twitter page that some services will remain short formed due to delays in the transfer of the remaining 350/4s also

350401 entered service yesterday. They do have enough 350/4s, but they need to be modified in LNR use. By January they will have them in service. That’s what they said.
 

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