WMTrains livery and station branding

[Mollman]

The first 3 car WMR 170 has been disbanded at Tyseley. 170635's centre car is on a low loader, awaiting forward movement to ??.

Unit has been renumbered 170535 as a consequence.

Mark

Interesting that they are going already despite the replacement stock not being in service.

 

[59CosG95]

Interesting that they are going already despite the replacement stock not being in service.

AFAICT, the unit looks like it's staying in service as a 2-car while the centre car gets refurbished for XC.

 

[Spirit555]

323205 back from refurb and fitted with standard lighting now.

Mark

 

[St. Paddy]

323205 back from refurb and fitted with standard lighting now.

Mark

Are they all PRM’d now?

 

[Spirit555]

Only 323241 to come back which arrived at Wolverton on 01/08

Mark

 

[Dan15812]

Will the 350/4 and /3 start to be refurbished as nearly all /1 units are complete?
Chears

 

[Spirit555]

350/4's yes. Some 350/3's are semi refurbed. They're only having new PIS screens and a luggage rack. Seats not changed on sets already done.

Mark

 

[Dan15812]

350/4's yes. Some 350/3's are semi refurbed. They're only having new PIS screens and a luggage rack. Seats not changed on sets already done.

Mark

Ok, so will the 350/3 receive the LNR interior when all the /4 are complete then?
It will be nice for all units to share the same common interior for once.

 

[Mollman]

AFAICT, the unit looks like it's staying in service as a 2-car while the centre car gets refurbished for XC.

Ah, ok thanks.

 

[Spirit555]

Ok, so will the 350/3 receive the LNR interior when all the /4 are complete then?
It will be nice for all units to share the same common interior for once.

The 350/3's are receiving minimal work. New PIS, a luggage rack and new charge points. They are retaining green seats at present. The 350/4's will receive full refurb as per 350401.

HTH

Mark

 

[Dan15812]

The 350/3's are receiving minimal work. New PIS, a luggage rack and new charge points. They are retaining green seats at present. The 350/4's will receive full refurb as per 350401.

HTH

Mark

I guess they won't do the grab poles or order new seat frames for the /4.

 

[ScottGallagher]

Just whizzed through Milton Keynes which now has new signage, pretty sure it wasn't there on Saturday when I went up north.

 

[59CosG95]

Just whizzed through Milton Keynes which now has new signage, pretty sure it wasn't there on Saturday when I went up north.

On the standalone illuminated signage south of the canopies? AFAIK they were the only bits left to do.

 

[ScottGallagher]

On the standalone illuminated signage south of the canopies? AFAIK they were the only bits left to do.

Yes that's what I noticed, could have just vinyled over it as it's white now. Just really stood out.
LNWR station colours and signage look really smart, has grown on me

 

[Bletchleyite]

Yes that's what I noticed, could have just vinyled over it as it's white now. Just really stood out.
LNWR station colours and signage look really smart, has grown on me

I still think the 350 livery looks like a packet of Trebor mints (too many vertical elements), but the colour scheme is certainly pleasant and professional.

 

[Spirit555]

I guess they won't do the grab poles or order new seats for the /4.

The 350/4's will get new seat coverings etc in line with 350/1 refurb. It's only the 350/3's not getting new seat covering/floot carpets.

HTH

Mark

 

[birchesgreen]

I was passing Tyseley yesterday and saw the 196 in the flesh for the first time, is this to receive vinyls over the orange bits or are WMR changing their livery for their new units as it stood out quite notably from the in-service WMR units?

 

[rjames87]

The 350/4's will get new seat coverings etc in line with 350/1 refurb. It's only the 350/3's not getting new seat covering/floot carpets.

HTH

Mark

Is there a plan to revisit these and do carpets / seats later or are they just deemed to be in good enough condition to not bother ?

 

[Bletchleyite]

I was passing Tyseley yesterday and saw the 196 in the flesh for the first time, is this to receive vinyls over the orange bits or are WMR changing their livery for their new units as it stood out quite notably from the in-service WMR units?

The in-service units are in an interim livery, the 196 livery (horrid though I think it is) is the permanent one.

 

[birchesgreen]

The in-service units are in an interim livery, the 196 livery (horrid though I think it is) is the permanent one.

Good grief, sunglasses will be required

 

[Class172]

I can’t help but think aesthetically at least that the golden shade of orange used on the 172s interim units would be better than the orange that appears to be used on the 196s.

 

[221101 Voyager]

350130 is now in LNWR livery as seen on 5N89 heading to Northampton today.

 

[uniquicity]

I don't think this has been reported on here but 172342 is the first 3 car I've seen that has had an internal refurb / plugs fitted / new internal displays

 

[Chriso]

I don't think this has been reported on here but 172342 is the first 3 car I've seen that has had an internal refurb / plugs fitted / new internal displays

I’m on 172332 at the moment which has also been refurbished to the standard of the 172/2’s. it also has the new interior PIS as per the 172/0’s

 

[Spirit555]

172331 currently at Ilford for refurb treatment.

323241 came back from refurb on Saturday 29/08, accompanied by 323212. 323217 went in the opposite direction with 323212 prior to returning with 241.

That completed the WMR 323 refurb.

Mark

 

[59CosG95]

Updated list of all the WMR/LNWR branded trains/stations (as of 1/9/20). This list is now combined.

Stations - WMR
WCML Rugby-Birmingham-Stafford-Stoke Loop (COV-SNE, exc. COV, BHM & BHI)
All WMT-operated stations between Rugby (exc.) & Stoke-on-Trent (exc.) are in WMR orange & grey, with the exception of Penkridge (with old-style LMS lampposts).
>Canley, Tile Hill, Berkswell, Hampton-in-Arden, Marston Green, Lea Hall: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Stechford: Network WM running boards, LM/WMR signage mix.
>Adderley Park: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Smethwick Rolfe Street: WMR running boards/signage.
>Smethwick Galton Bridge: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers) on both levels.
>Sandwell & Dudley: WMR running boards/signage.
>Dudley Port: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Tipton: WMR running boards/signage.
>Coseley: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>(City of) Wolverhampton: WMR running boards/signage.
>Penkridge: WMR running boards/signage.
>Stone: WMR running boards/signage.

Wolverhampton-Shrewsbury Line
All stations between Wolverhampton (exc.) & Shrewsbury (exc.) have old-style GWR lampposts, except Telford Central (which has WMR orange/grey). All also have WMR running boards - these have no additional transfers unless mentioned.
>Bilbrook, Codsall, Albrighton, Cosford, Shifnal: WMR signage.
>Telford Central: WMR running boards with "Ironbridge Gorge" transfers, LM signage.
>Oakengates: WMR signage.
>Wellington: WMR running boards with "Gateway to the Wrekin" transfers, WMR signage.

Cross-City Line (LTV-BMV/RDC, exc. BHM)
Unless stated otherwise, all stations on the Cross-City Line have full orange/grey lampposts.
>Lichfield Trent Valley (High Level): LM running boards, WMR signage.
>Lichfield City: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Birthplace of Samuel Johnson" transfers).
>Shenstone, Blake Street: WMR running boards/signage.
>Butlers Lane: Network WM running boards, LM/WMR signage mix. Platform Number markers on P2 are still LM.
>Four Oaks: Network WM running boards, LM/WMR signage mix. All 'Tickets' signs & a P2/3 marker are still LM.
>(Royal Town of) Sutton Coldfield: WMR running boards/signage. Platform number markers on lampposts are still LM.
>Wylde Green: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts (not throughout; 1 lamppost at the Lichfield end is only half painted). Station sign over bridge still NWM.
>Chester Road: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Boldmere" transfers).
>Erdington: WMR running boards/signage.
>Gravelly Hill: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Home of Spaghetti Junction" transfers). (P2 Way Out Sign is still LM)
>Aston: WMR running boards/signage (inc. AVFC transfers).
>Duddeston: WMR running boards/signage.
>Five Ways: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Broad Street" transfers).
>University: Partial WMR running boards/full WMR signage (inc. "for Queen Elizabeth Hospital and University of Birmingham" transfers). Running boards under P1 canopies are still NWM.
>Selly Oak: WMR running boards, LM/WMR signage mix.
>Bournville: WMR running boards/signage (inc. Stirchley/Cadbury World transfers), Purple "Cadbury" lampposts.
>Kings Norton: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Northfield: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Longbridge: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Barnt Green: WMR running boards/signage (inc. Lickey Hills Country Park transfers).
>Alvechurch: WMR running boards/signage.
>Redditch: WMR running boards, WMR signage.
>Bromsgrove: WMR running boards, WMR/non-std signage mix.

Snow Hill Lines (Dorridge/Stratford-u-A - Ledbury via Snow Hill & Worcester)
Unless stated otherwise, all WMT-operated stations from Stratford-upon-Avon to Earlswood (exc. Stratford Pkwy) have WMR running boards/signage with old-style GWR lampposts, and all stations from Wythall to Spring Road have Network WM Signs and the same lampposts.
Unless otherwise mentioned, all WMT-operated stations from Widney Manor to Worcester (inc. Stourbridge Town) have orange/grey lampposts; Widney Manor, Olton & Acocks Green also have WMR signs/signage.
>Stratford-upon-Avon: LM "Olympic Gold" running boards, LM signage (TBC).
>Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.
>Wilmcote: WMR running boards/signage (inc. Mary Arden's Farm transfers).
>Wootton Wawen, Henley-in-Arden, Danzey, Wood End, The Lakes, Earlswood: WMR running boards/signage.
>Wythall: WMR running boards, WMR signage (AFAIK).
>Whitlocks End: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Dickens Heath" transfers).
>Shirley, Yardley Wood: WMR running boards/signage.
>Widney Manor, Olton, Acocks Green: WMR running boards/signage.
>Hall Green: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Spring Road: WMR running boards/signage.
>Tyseley: WMR running boards/signage; depot has orange/grey lampposts. Running board font different to the rest.
>Small Heath: Network WM running boards, WMR signage, unpainted lampposts.
>Bordesley: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Birmingham Snow Hill: WMR running boards/signage.
>Jewellery Quarter: WMR running boards/signage.
>The Hawthorns: WMR running boards (inc. West Bromwich Albion transfers), LM/WMR signage mix.
>Langley Green: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Oldbury" transfers).
>Rowley Regis: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Blackheath" transfers).
>Old Hill: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Haden Hill" transfers).
>Cradley Heath: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Merry Hill Shopping Centre" transfers).
>Lye: WMR running boards/signage.
>Stourbridge Junction: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Change Here for Stourbridge Town" transfers) (P1/2); P3 has WMR signage & Network WM running boards.
(>Stourbridge Town: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.)
>Hagley, Blakedown: WMR running boards/signage.
>Kidderminster: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Severn Valley Railway" transfers).
>Hartlebury, Droitwich Spa, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street: WMR running boards/signage.
>Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury: WMR running boards/signage, old-style GWR lampposts (inc. "Cotswolds & Malverns Line" transfers).

Chase Line (Aston (exc.) - Walsall - Rugeley TV (exc.))
All WMT-operated stations between Aston (exc.) & Rugeley Trent Valley (exc.) are in WMR orange & grey.
>Witton: WMR running boards/signage, plus new PIS screens.
>Perry Barr, Hamstead: WMR running boards/signage.
>Tame Bridge Parkway, Bescot Stadium: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Walsall: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Bloxwich, Bloxwich North: WMR running boards/signage.
>Landywood: WMR running boards (southbound platform), Network WM running boards (northbound platform); WMR signage.
>Cannock: WMR running boards/signage.
>Hednesford: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Rugeley Town: LM running boards, WMR signage.

NUCKLE - Nuneaton/Coventry/Kenilworth/Leamington Spa
>Kenilworth: WMR running boards/signage, unpainted lampposts with orange bands.
>Coventry Arena: WMR running boards, LM/WMR signage mix, orange/grey lampposts.
>Bedworth, Bermuda Park: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.

Others
>Water Orton, Wilnecote: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.
>Coleshill Parkway: LM running boards, WMR signage, unpainted posts with WMR orange shelter.
>Claverdon: WMR running boards, partial WMR signage, some LM signage, old-style GWR lampposts.
>Bearley: WMR running boards/signage, old-style GWR lampposts.

Trains - WMR
Class 139 - both in FINAL WMR livery
139001: unrefurbished
139002: unrefurbished

Class 153 (due to leave the franchise):
153334: LM livery, WMR branding
153354: ditto
153356: ditto
153364: ditto
153365: ditto
153366: ditto
153371: ditto
153375: ditto

Class 170/5 (2-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery
Class 170/6 (3-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery
170630: still 3 cars
170631: still 3 cars
170632: still 3 cars
170633: still 3 cars
170634: still 3 cars
170635: centre car removed, renumbered to 170535

Class 172/0 (2-cars, ex-London Overground) - all in FINAL WMR livery, half-refurbished & in service
172001: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172002: refurbished with new interior, toilet, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information Screens.
172003: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172004: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs (TBC).
172005: refurbished with new interior, toilet, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information Screens.
172006: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172007: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172008: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs

Class 172/2 (2-cars, with gangway) - all in FINAL WMR livery, and refurbished with new interior, WiFi & plugs

Class 172/3 (3-cars, with gangway) - all in FINAL WMR livery
172331: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172332: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172333: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172334: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172335: unrefurbished but with WiFi. Currently at Ilford for refurb.
172336: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172337: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172338: unrefurbished but with WiFi. Currently at Ilford for refurb.
172339: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172340: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172341: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172342: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172343: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172344: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172345: unrefurbished but with WiFi

Class 323 (due to leave the franchise for Northern) - all in outgoing WMR livery, PRM compliant, and refurbished with new upholstery, WiFi, CCTV & PIS.

Stations - LNWR
WCML
All WMT-managed stations on the WCML have two-tone green/white LNWR lampposts from Watford Jct to Acton Bridge (inclusive). Aside from the stations listed below, all have LNWR running boards/signage; Long Buckby, Northampton, Wolverton, Bletchley, Leighton Buzzard, Berkhamsted, Hemel Hempstead & Watford Junction have "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" on their running boards.

>Long Buckby: LNWR running boards (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers), LM/LNWR signage mix.
>Milton Keynes Central: LM running boards/signage. External platform number markers (i.e. those not under canopies) are now in LNWR colours.
>Tring: LNWR running boards/signage. (N.B. One lamppost behind Tring P1 is still in LM green/black AFAIK).
>Watford Junction: LNWR running boards (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers; except large illuminated ones - those are still LM), LNWR signage.

Abbey Line - all have LNWR running boards, signage & two-tone green lampposts.

Marston Vale Line - all have LNWR "Marston Vale" running boards & signage.
>Fenny Stratford, Bow Brickhill (for Caldecotte and Tilbrook), Woburn Sands: LNWR two-tone green lampposts.
>Aspley Guise: LNWR two-tone green lampposts (eastbound), unpainted galvanised steel lampposts (westbound).
>Ridgmont, Lidlington, Millbrook (Beds), Stewartby (for Kimberley College), Kempston Hardwick, Bedford St. Johns: LNWR two-tone green lampposts.

Trains - LNWR
Class 230 - all refurbished and in full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery

Class 319 (due to leave the franchise upon introduction of Class 730s)
319005: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319012: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319013: LM livery, LNWR branding
319214: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319215: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319216: LM livery, LNWR branding
319217: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319218: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319219: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319220: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319429: LM livery, LNWR branding
319433: LM livery, LNWR branding
319441: LM livery, LNWR branding
319457: LM livery, LNWR branding (with white cab ends)
319460: LM livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/1 - see the dedicated Class 350/1 refurb thread.

Class 350/1 refurbishment

Just saw on my train this morning that LNR seem to be taking an interesting approach to seat refurbishment in 350/1s....

www.railforums.co.uk

Class 350/2 (due to leave the franchise upon introduction of Class 730s)
350231: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350232: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350233: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350234: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350235: LM livery (with BTP wrap), LNWR branding.
350236-238: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350239: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350240: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350241-243: LM livery, LNWR branding
350244: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350245: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350246-251: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350252-254: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350255: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350256: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350257-259: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350260: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350261: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350262: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350263: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350264-266: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350267: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

Class 350/3 - all reliveried into full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe
350368: Full LNWR livery with "Resorts World Birmingham" advertising branding. Refurbished.
350369: Full LNWR livery with "Edgbaston Cricket Ground" advertising branding.
350370: Full LNWR livery with "Cadbury World" advertising branding. Currently being refurbished.
350371: Full LNWR livery with "Birmingham Airport" advertising branding.
350372: Full LNWR livery with "Visit Liverpool" advertising branding.
350373: Full LNWR livery with "Birmingham Hippodrome" advertising branding.
350374: Full LNWR livery with "Liverpool Airport" advertising branding.
350375: Full LNWR livery with "Madame Tussauds" advertising branding.
350376: Full LNWR livery with "Wizarding World of Harry Potter" advertising branding.
350377: Full LNWR livery with "RSC: Visit Stratford upon Avon" advertising branding.

Class 350/4 - all now with LNWR. All units are in full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe & large unit no's.
350401: Refurbished.
350402: Unrefurbished.
350403: Unrefurbished.
350404: Unrefurbished.
350405: Unrefurbished.
350406: Unrefurbished.
350407: Unrefurbished.
350408: Unrefurbished.
350409: Unrefurbished.
350410: Unrefurbished.

 

[Ted172]

>Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury: WMR running boards/signage, old-style GWR lampposts (inc. "Cotswolds & Malverns Line" transfers).

After some research, the lampposts at Great Malvern are in the Midland Railway colour scheme.

 

[py_megapixel]

The first 3 car WMR 170 has been disbanded at Tyseley. 170635's centre car is on a low loader, awaiting forward movement to ??.

Unit has been renumbered 170535 as a consequence.

Mark

Where is 170535 headed, in the long term? Wales?

 

[greatvoyager]

Where is 170535 headed, in the long term? Wales?

East Midlands Railway.

 

[Ted172]

Where is 170535 headed, in the long term? Wales?

Heading to East Midlands Railway. Centre car is heading to CrossCountry.